Fierce battle over gun rights

[sniper7]

Say what!? The smuggling of drugs/guns/money/people across the border is not a good thing for our country. It breeds more delinquent non-tax paying people in America, violence (both here and down there), and more and more drugs. Not to mention the money spent on all the border control that is vastly under manned and under funded.

and all those same people vote 90% democrat. maybe not that exact percentage but still pretty good numbers for them.

[hatidua]

Say what!? The smuggling of drugs/guns/money/people across the border is not a good thing for our country. It breeds more delinquent non-tax paying people in America, violence (both here and down there), and more and more drugs. Not to mention the money spent on all the border control that is vastly under manned and under funded.

Too many businesses depend on illegal immigration for it to ever stop. Trying to stop illegal immigration works about as well as trying to eradicate illegal drugs. Billions (if not trillions) of dollars have been spent on trying to rid society of both and the return on that investment has been appalling. I'm not in favor of either but I'm realistic enough to acknowledge that cocaine and wetbacks will remain long after I'm pushing up flowers.

When your average American university student graduates with degree in-hand and his/her highest ambition is to pick fruit or mow lawns for a living, then the illegal immigration issue will diminish.

However, I don't see anyone in my neighborhood clamoring to live 10 to a room and work in the fields all day for minimum wage with illusions of somehow managing to cover the mortgage. Illegal immigration? -it's here to stay, whether we like it or not.

[Singlestack]

I must have missed something along the way, but I heard LaPierre (and many others) convincingly make the case that the cartels aren't buying the US guns and smuggling them across the border - instead, the cartels buy guns (much more cheaply) on the world black market and across the Mexico Southern border. Makes total sense to me.

In the interview, I thought I later heard him say the cartels were buying guns from the gun stores?? So who are these 22 year old straw buyers buying 2,000-3,000 guns for from the US stores? Criminals outside the cartels? US-based drug smugglers or human trafficers? Or someone else?

If the cartels can buy guns more cheaply from other sources, why would they go through the trouble of buying from US stores? That part doesn't make sense...

Singlestack

[Milt]

"Say what!? The smuggling of drugs/guns/money/people across the border is not a good thing for our country. It breeds more delinquent non-tax paying people in America, violence (both here and down there), and more and more drugs. Not to mention the money spent on all the border control that is vastly under manned and under funded."

One other thing - this creates a 'problem' that government can pretend to 'solve', at the expense of our Liberty (and more taxes), of course. This is the reason that the 'drug problem' has increased greatly since the War on (some) Drugs began...