Shouldn't this law be common sense?

[theGinsue]

It's sad that this is even an issue. They are claiming that it's unfair and categorizing welfare recipients as irresponsible - no, it simply ensures that those that ARE irresponsible don't get to spend taxpayers money on stupid things. It's mind boggling that this is even an issue. You take a look at the London riots, caused by taking away some entitlements - just how far away are we from both having to take them away and having a bunch of folks riot because their welfare is getting cut. Sad.

Fixed it for you.

[Zundfolge]

...voting should be reserved for citizens.

We have certain classes of citizens that are not allowed to vote. Felons, children, people dishonorably discharged, etc.

My modest proposal is that if you're on government assistance, you cannot vote. You're no longer a "tax payer" you're a "tax spender" ... you're no longer a full citizen, you're a dependent.

You want to vote? Fine, I don't care if you don't own property or have a job, or even if you USED to be on assistance, just don't suck off the teat and you get to vote.

[n8tive97]

We have certain classes of citizens that are not allowed to vote. Felons, children, people dishonorably discharged, etc.

My modest proposal is that if you're on government assistance, you cannot vote. You're no longer a "tax payer" you're a "tax spender" ... you're no longer a full citizen, you're a dependent.

You want to vote? Fine, I don't care if you don't own property or have a job, or even if you USED to be on assistance, just don't suck off the teat and you get to vote.

This is even a better example of what I was trying to say!!!!!
Thanks Zun

[Irving]

I get what he's saying, he just put it a bit differently than I would. How's this:

If you don't contribute to the economy and overall good of the nation, you don't get a say in who runs it.
Meaning my dad, who's been living here for 30 years but is still a Canadian citizen (yes, I think its dumb too, but that's another conversation), who works and pays taxes, would be able to vote (although he's a lib, so I'm not sure if its such a good idea).
And Shaniqua Welfare who sits around all day smoking God knows what, getting food stamps and welfare and anything else she can, popping out babies from various guys so she can get more food stamps and welfare... don't get to have a say in shit.

I used to think this way as well. I no longer do. The person you described isn't in any real danger of voting anyway though.

[Scanker19]

While this subject is near and dear to me as I grew up on welfare and food stamps, but my mom had a job and for the most part did the right thing. While I do believe that some people need help, we do need some type of reform.

I think the benefits should be limited in time available if you do not work. Food stamps should only be good on specific items like how WIC is, and not whether or not the food is hot or cold, or packaged or not. The welfare side needs to be closely watched or systems put in place to stop frivolous spending. Its too easy to take your EBT card to an ATM and take out cash to buy bullshit. It needs to be audited from time to time to see what you are spending your money on. Similar to keeping a ledger in a check book. You get caught spending money on bullshit you lose your benefits.

What we should do is make non citizens out of people. If they can't vote what other rights should they lose? Search warrant, nope you're on welfare, no 4th amendment for you. Some people are in a bad spot and do need the help. Its hard to get a good paying job when you only have a high school diploma, and no skills. At the same time though you don't get paid $12 an hour to clean toilets, or stock shelves, that's how cost go up and you are still poor.

The world needs poor people, cause if you pay me as much as a brain surgeon to clean toilets, then why would I go to school? What would be the point of trying.

That's what needs to be done, help the needy when they need it, reward them for making a life for themselves, and punish those who like free rides.

[Troublco]

That's why welfare reform is desperately need. Send out to pick up trash 10-12 hours a day.

Heck, yeah! Work for your welfare. Maybe then they'd want to get a job. If it sucked to not have a job (Like, you're poor and can't do squat) maybe that would motivate some career welfare recipients to get one!

This isn't to say that I think that the original purpose for the system is a bad one; not so. It's the leeches I refer to...