Ann Barnhardt - Controversial

[mcantar18c]

But then again why the HELL wasn't that stealth Blackhawk totally destroyed?

^This.
Why wasn't it completely destroyed?
Why no dialysis machines in the complex?
Why the total disregard for OPSEC?
Why the literally unbelievably fast spread of knowledge and information?
Why the suspicious timing?
Why the suspicious actions?

I'm by no means a conspiracy theorist nutjob, but there sure are lots of questions.

[UberTong]

Zund, once again you have said it perfectly. It's like you know what I'm trying to say. Do you have a newsletter or something I could subscribe to? lol.

[KevDen2005]

You know what else I read on the internet? The US government faked the twin tower attacks.

One of the up sides to the internet is that it gives way more people the ability to voice what they think.


One of the down sides to the internet is that it gives way more people the ability to voice what they think.

Exactly...

There are a lot of unanswered questions but I can't buy into someone, even as ridiculous as Obama, staging something like this. I also believe that the twin towers attack was not an inside job. I'm sorry, but there isn't enough evidence for me to buy it.

[airborneranger]

It is an interesting read and point of view. There are some assumptions that she states as facts: such as an RPG can't take down a CH-47. That isn't true - been there / done that. I have seen RPGs do some amazing things that I didn't think were possible. I agree with the earlier posters that there are some questions but I don't think this huge conspiracy exists.

[Ronin13]

It is an interesting read and point of view. There are some assumptions that she states as facts: such as an RPG can't take down a CH-47. That isn't true - been there / done that. I have seen RPGs do some amazing things that I didn't think were possible. I agree with the earlier posters that there are some questions but I don't think this huge conspiracy exists.

Exactly... Operation Anaconda- Taliban fighters were able to take down a CH-47 with a single RPG-7. Somalia 1993- Two UH-60s are downed by RPG-7s. Iraq 2005, an OH-58D downed by insurgent RPG fire. This lady seems like a hack, especially since it was confirmed that the SEALs on the bird did not take part in the "Geronimo" Operation. I do agree with the sentiment that she poses where DEVGRU is not talked about, not acknowledged, and OPSEC is #1 on the subject matter. I do think that the current administration has no freaking clue what the phrase "Loose lips sink ships" means, because ever since the Geronimo Operation they've been talking about ST6, having press conferences, and sharing operational details, which where I come from, the US Intelligence Community, that's fucking TREASON. Give our .gov a round of applause for continuing to put our boys and girls in danger by divulging information that the public has no right to.

[Inconel710]

Exactly... Operation Anaconda- Taliban fighters were able to take down a CH-47 with a single RPG-7. Somalia 1993- Two UH-60s are downed by RPG-7s. Iraq 2005, an OH-58D downed by insurgent RPG fire. This lady seems like a hack, especially since it was confirmed that the SEALs on the bird did not take part in the "Geronimo" Operation. I do agree with the sentiment that she poses where DEVGRU is not talked about, not acknowledged, and OPSEC is #1 on the subject matter. I do think that the current administration has no freaking clue what the phrase "Loose lips sink ships" means, because ever since the Geronimo Operation they've been talking about ST6, having press conferences, and sharing operational details, which where I come from, the US Intelligence Community, that's fucking TREASON. Give our .gov a round of applause for continuing to put our boys and girls in danger by divulging information that the public has no right to.

Have to agree with you 100% Ronin13. She's got a lot of basic facts wrong and the whole theory doesn't stand up - they can't forge a birth certificate, but they can stage a complex raid into Pakistan and cover up the fact that OBL wasn't there? That's just as nutty as the 9/11 truthers' conspiracy - Bush is an idiot, but he masteminded the demolition of the WTC?

The raid was real, OBL was there, and DEVGRU's OPSEC has been blown forever. We'll spend millions of dollars to build a new facility and ST6 will disappear again.

And for everyone wondering why the report on the Chinook downing went out so fast, it was probably a command decision by the military commander in country to get it out before the Taliban could crow about it to the media. Better to admit to bad news before your enemy makes you look foolish for trying to hide it.

[Obound]

I cant help but think this Osama thing reminds me of that movie Shooter with Mark Walberg. Im not much into conspiracy theories but this one just kind of fits the bill.

Mr. Rate - That's how a conspiracy works. Them boys on the Grassy Knoll they were dead within three hours, buried in the damned desert, unmarked graves out past Terlingua.

Nick Memphis - You know this for a fact?

Mr. Rate - Still got the shovel...

I don't know much but the basics I got was Seal team 6 killed Osama, Insurgents killed Seal team 6, military kills insurgents. Osama quickly dropped into unmarked grave in Ocean.

It feels like anybody who was somebody involved with this was killed.

Again I don't know much. Considering Im here in Colorado and not over in the sandbox everything I know I had to read or was told to me by somebody.

[TFOGGER]

It was well organized for the first 75% or so, then degenerated into paranoid ramblings. And she has crazy eyes in that pic.

[Ronin13]

I cant help but think this Osama thing reminds me of that movie Shooter with Mark Walberg. Im not much into conspiracy theories but this one just kind of fits the bill.
I don't know much but the basics I got was Seal team 6 killed Osama, Insurgents killed Seal team 6, military kills insurgents. Osama quickly dropped into unmarked grave in Ocean.

It feels like anybody who was somebody involved with this was killed.

Again I don't know much. Considering Im here in Colorado and not over in the sandbox everything I know I had to read or was told to me by somebody.

So you can admit your knowledge base on this is limited. But ST6 members involved in the OBL raid were not on board the CH-47... The Pentagon released a statement and said it "may" have been retaliation for the raid, but it's nearly impossible to confirm. Plus they're fighting us regardless of which leader of theirs is or isn't killed... holy war, remember?
Also, as far as this Barnhardt lady having a "spook" source, I will say no intel person who values their career and freedom would disclose classified material to anyone not read-on... NO ONE. I don't care who you know, if it's your ex-high school sweetheart you're trying to impress or your college roommate, no person in the intel community would talk about sensitive material to a civilian. Punishment ranges from being fired and fined to being locked up under the prison.

[Ranger]

Without getting into a big debate and acknowledging that some of her theories are a bit tin hatted for my taste, I will say that I said at the time and maintained that OBL was not at that compound and that it was a political hat trick to give a boost to the administration and to take the spotlight off of the birth certificate issue. I personally believe that OBL has been dead a while and there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that lends itself to this theory.

I'm also not sure of her sources, but everything I have read about the birth certificate says that there are no signs that it's a fake - not obvious ones at least. The layers she said were present in the electronic file - well I've read the exact opposite that there were no layers and that was usually a sign that it was either doctored by someone who knew what they were doing or that it's real. Seriously, if they WERE going to do that (or if it was me), I would doctor it up, print it out and SCAN IT IN, not send my electronic copy to the world to tear apart.

My $0.02.