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    More Abrasive Than Sand In Your Crotch tmleadr03's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    I don't think they killed OBL during the raid. Not sure when he was killed/died but it wasn't then. Damn near every other high profile BG we have captured or killed has been paraded all over the news. And that include pictures taken after time of death. But no OBL pictures...

    I also don't think we shot down the Chinook but I do think someone screwed the pooch big time on that. A chinook FULL of special forces? Going in for support? WTF were there so many SEALS on one helo going in for a support mission? A support mission. My SF buddies have told me they never went into a fight piled 30 high on one bird. Maybe they were transported to another base or location with that many on board but never into a fight. They ALWAYS took smaller birds with less men into battle. Someone desk jockey fucked up...there should never be that many SF in one easy target.
    Just because you are the best does not mean that some punk cant get lucky or have good intell every once and a while. Shit happens when you get over confident. That is what happened here and anything else is nut job conspiracy theory.

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    I totally agree with tmleader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmleadr03 View Post
    Just because you are the best does not mean that some punk cant get lucky or have good intell every once and a while. Shit happens when you get over confident. That is what happened here and anything else is nut job conspiracy theory.
    Which is my point. I don't think any BG was tipped off about the Chinook or that some secret is to blame. No conspiracy. My point is, simply put, someone fucked up.
    There should never been that many SF on one bird going into fire. As I mentioned, my buddy who I have known for the better part of 18 years, who has been SF active duty for 9 and who's Dad is also SF has told me that they NEVER went into a fight stacked 30 operators high on one bird. According to him it's not SOP and according to me it's stupid to put that many high priority targets for the BGs in one easy target. It's a damn shame.

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    I don't buy into most of her article on this particular subject, but all in all Ann is one who is most definitely on our side. I applaud her other efforts and for always voicing such a strong opinion AND standing by it. Cheers Ann if you're reading this, which I know you are now.

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    I find that I agree with her more than I disagree with her ... when I do disagree its usually more a matter of degrees than outright (for example on this I don't think we're getting the truth, but I think her conclusions are probably just as wrong as the "official" story). Only other area I disagree with her is her whole Catholic supremacy thing.

    But like Reagan said, someone you disagree with 20% of the time is 80% your friend.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
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    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
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    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Last time I'm saying this Zund, stay out of my head with your brain scanners. I'm gonna run my posts by you from now on, so you can eloquently put them together how I intended it to come across. Honestly though, you seem to hit the nail on the head with what I'm thinking, but I never can it across like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UberTong View Post
    Last time I'm saying this Zund, stay out of my head with your brain scanners. I'm gonna run my posts by you from now on, so you can eloquently put them together how I intended it to come across. Honestly though, you seem to hit the nail on the head with what I'm thinking, but I never can it across like you.
    Right... Zund is very well versed and eloquent... Some of us just have a knack for words and mashing them together in a very well meaning and perfectly organized manner, the rest, well... nynco, need I say more?
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    When in doubt, quote the Gipper.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UberTong View Post
    Last time I'm saying this Zund, stay out of my head with your brain scanners. I'm gonna run my posts by you from now on, so you can eloquently put them together how I intended it to come across. Honestly though, you seem to hit the nail on the head with what I'm thinking, but I never can it across like you.
    Apparently not

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