Downtown Denver

[n8tive97]

I used to live in Washington DC for many years, Denver is a much safer place than most cities. That being said, something should be done about this crap and the city is ridiculous for not releasing that information. If I go downtown, and I do sometimes because I am not going to let thugs run me out because they don't me there, I go in a large group of people if I plan on drinking or I carry my gun if I am not going to drink. But I have a huge problem with all of us allowing criminal to overrun our cities. I don't have the answer, but we should be doing something, I think.

I'm telling you guys, we need to form a posse!

[sneakerd]

See- there you go again- looking for trouble!!!

[Ronin13]

Shit, I go downtown all the time- in fact I'll be at the Filmore tomorrow night... but I rest easy knowing the guys I'll be with, especially leaving around 1AM. Let them try to jump us, we're not afraid, even if we're not carrying. I will say, anyone who starts trouble my main thing to tell the cops is "my military training teaches to eliminate the threat, not run away, someone attacks me believe me they're going down." I refuse to let criminals push us around and make us live in fear. If DPD needs to hire more, or crack down, so be it, I'm not advocating vigilantism, but which is better, a gun that's just a draw away? or a cop that's 3-10min away? If need be, I will end crime with extreme prejudice, I've been the victim before and trust me, it's not the mental state you want to be in... you feel like shit, helpless, weak and fearful, and that's contrary to what I believe and what I want. Thus, if I really have to end a life in defense of my safety and life and property, or that of those I'm with, you bet your ass I will push hesitation out a 30 story window and put my foot down. Flame me if you want, but this is something I feel strongly about- I swore I would never be a victim ever again, and if I die defending myself then so be it, at least I died standing. I'd rather die like a man than live like a coward.

[rondog]

I have a deep, burning hatred for gangbangers, druggies and street thugs of all kinds, I'd make a good vigilante! I don't move all that well, but I can shoot good. Do I get a black ninja suit? I'd need a 4x......

[Ranger]

I die defending myself then so be it, at least I died standing. I'd rather die like a man than live like a coward.

+1000, I'm with you Ronin. But, my point is that if my life is NOT in danger, would I be so inclined as to place it in danger and confront a group of drunks looking for a fight? I don't and won't live in fear and have all confidence that I'm capable of taking on just about anybody - without a weapon - even if that means I get creamed. I used to get into fights a lot, I loved the adrenaline of fighting someone and sought it out at every opportunity, but I'm much more careful now. Back then a knife was the worst you could expect, now it's a gun. Different world.

And while I don't agree that I MUST have a CCW to carry, I realize that my legal right (according to Colorado) to carry is based on that, I am quite cognizant of my actions now since a rash action could result in losing it.

[alxone]

I'd make a good vigilante! I don't move all that well, but I can shoot good. Do I get a black ninja suit? I'd need a 4x......

[Lex_Luthor]

I have a deep, burning hatred for gangbangers, druggies and street thugs of all kinds, I'd make a good vigilante! I don't move all that well, but I can shoot good. Do I get a black ninja suit? I'd need a 4x......

Chris Farley in Beverly Hills Ninja!!

[n8tive97]

Shit, I go downtown all the time- in fact I'll be at the Filmore tomorrow night... but I rest easy knowing the guys I'll be with, especially leaving around 1AM. Let them try to jump us, we're not afraid, even if we're not carrying. I will say, anyone who starts trouble my main thing to tell the cops is "my military training teaches to eliminate the threat, not run away, someone attacks me believe me they're going down." I refuse to let criminals push us around and make us live in fear. If DPD needs to hire more, or crack down, so be it, I'm not advocating vigilantism, but which is better, a gun that's just a draw away? or a cop that's 3-10min away? If need be, I will end crime with extreme prejudice, I've been the victim before and trust me, it's not the mental state you want to be in... you feel like shit, helpless, weak and fearful, and that's contrary to what I believe and what I want. Thus, if I really have to end a life in defense of my safety and life and property, or that of those I'm with, you bet your ass I will push hesitation out a 30 story window and put my foot down. Flame me if you want, but this is something I feel strongly about- I swore I would never be a victim ever again, and if I die defending myself then so be it, at least I died standing. I'd rather die like a man than live like a coward.

This is why the dude in Con Air got screwed! Protecting himself and his girl and gets thrown in jail because he used his training!

[Graves]

Yeah, but he managed to get a sweet hair-do out of the deal.

[Ronin13]

This is why the dude in Con Air got screwed! Protecting himself and his girl and gets thrown in jail because he used his training!

Actually, that's been debunked... in real life that wouldn't actually happen in a clear cut self defense case- I asked my friend's wife who's a former ADA from MA and she said that if you have .mil training and you have to defend yourself you use whatever tools you need to defend yourself. You shouldn't be punished for using your training to defend yourself. That's why I thought Con Air was a ridiculous portrayal, but still fun to watch.