One punch and out...

[Drilldov2.0]

I'm wondering why this guy was just so angry about your dog that he started swinging at our guy.

Have you ever met a tweeker? Normally, I have no problem with what others choose to do, but meth absolutely changes a person and makes them irrational to the extreme. I have dealt with and run off a bunch of them on the rigs before they got someone, or themselves hurt or killed.

[Irving]

I thought he was a truck driver?

[Drilldov2.0]

I thought he was a truck driver?

He was and an obvious tweeker. Meth use is very common among jobs that require long hours.

[DD977GM2]

The concept of a CCW Mindset seems to be lost with a lot of folks on here.
It isnt necessarly using your CCW in all situations regardless of the need for lethal force or to scare off a person in a potentially bad situation.
The mindset is to know when to use it our not and when to unholster. Doesnt mean we as folks with a CCW should become complacent in everyday life and never react to situations that do not warrent even acknoledgment of a CCW and sit back and watch people continue to harm others in any capacity.
In a lot of ways I think folks with CCW have felt they need ot be more of a pussy and leave well enough alone unless it is threatening your family or anothers. We still need to look out for our fellow person who is unable to defend themselves, such as the situation I mentioned early when a guy was beating his wife or GF and she had no way of defending herself and no one was stopping the nefarious acts of the douchbag BF or husband.

[Irving]

That doesn't seem safe to me. I try to avoid people addicted to drugs at all costs.

[Irving]

The concept of a CCW Mindset seems to be lost with a lot of folks on here.
It isnt necessarly using your CCW in all situations regardless of the need for lethal force or to scare off a person in a potentially bad situation.
The mindset is to know when to use it our not and when to unholster. Doesnt mean we as folks with a CCW should become complacent in everyday life and never react to situations that do not warrent even acknoledgment of a CCW and sit back and watch people continue to harm others in any capacity.
In a lot of ways I think folks with CCW have felt they need ot be more of a pussy and leave well enough alone unless it is threatening your family or anothers. We still need to look out for our fellow person who is unable to defend themselves, such as the situation I mentioned early when a guy was beating his wife or GF and she had no way of defending herself and no one was stopping the nefarious acts of the douchbag BF or husband.

I tend to agree with this. I don't think it matters all that much if you are carrying or not. If you can end the conflict with a punch, that's all the better.

I think people are just trying to point out that if you are carrying, you shouldn't make any moves that could add to a conflict. However, I really can't see how a jolly laugh and a back rub could come across as being aggressive. Even if I called someone an asshole, I feel like I'd be able to tell if they found it genuinely funny or not when they laughed in my face. I don't know though, I don't do meth, so I can't really comment on the guy's mindset.

Was this truck stop in Colorado?

[Drilldov2.0]

That doesn't seem safe to me. I try to avoid people addicted to drugs at all costs.

As do I Irving. In my business I unfortunately encounter a lot of them. Which is part of the reason I reacted the way I did. I ended the threat as quickly as possible.

Irving, This occurred in Rock Springs, Wyoming. At the Texaco truck stop off Elk Street just next to I-80.

Also, My truck was getting a new vacuum pump installed in Green River. I was hungry, took my dogs out for a walk, encountered a trucker who was broke down and leaking trans fluid. I helped him out, gave him the repair shop number, then went to the truck stop for some food and ran into the tweeker/trucker.

[tmleadr03]

The concept of a CCW Mindset seems to be lost with a lot of folks on here.
It isnt necessarly using your CCW in all situations regardless of the need for lethal force or to scare off a person in a potentially bad situation.
The mindset is to know when to use it our not and when to unholster. Doesnt mean we as folks with a CCW should become complacent in everyday life and never react to situations that do not warrent even acknoledgment of a CCW and sit back and watch people continue to harm others in any capacity.
In a lot of ways I think folks with CCW have felt they need ot be more of a pussy and leave well enough alone unless it is threatening your family or anothers. We still need to look out for our fellow person who is unable to defend themselves, such as the situation I mentioned early when a guy was beating his wife or GF and she had no way of defending herself and no one was stopping the nefarious acts of the douchbag BF or husband.

That is a completely different type of situation then the OP. I agree you have a responsibility to try to protect those who can not protect themselves and you know me well enough to know that I would have been right there with you.

My problem with the OP is that lets say you called someone an asshole and then that guy put his hand on you like described in the OP. Would you swing? I would. Put your hands on me or mine and good luck to you. Keep your hands to yourself. The OP got lucky that he hit the sweet spot on the guy. If he keeps his hands to himself he may not have to try his luck next time.

[Drilldov2.0]

That is a completely different type of situation then the OP. I agree you have a responsibility to try to protect those who can not protect themselves and you know me well enough to know that I would have been right there with you.

My problem with the OP is that lets say you called someone an asshole and then that guy put his hand on you like described in the OP. Would you swing? I would. Put your hands on me or mine and good luck to you. Keep your hands to yourself. The OP got lucky that he hit the sweet spot on the guy. If he keeps his hands to himself he may not have to try his luck next time.

I find your response funny. You think taking a swing at someone who laughs and pats you on the shoulder a correct time to swing? Well then I should have had people swinging at me left and right in the crowd at the Tim McGraw concert. I put my hand on people's shoulder's in a crowd who aren't paying attention while I try to navigate my small gf through. NEVER has anyone taken a swing at me. Most apologize. You need to rethink your mindset of put your hand on me or mine and good luck to you. It seems like you would be the aggressor every time someone touched you. I was presented with a violent person looking for trouble. Why do you think I was lucky? Remember, luck favors the most prepared.

[Irving]

I'm just glad to hear that a tweaker got knocked out.