One punch and out...

[TFOGGER]

Bull, the only way you could possibly hit someone is with a closed hand. No other way can even be considered.



Everyone was kung fu fighting. Damn song is in my head I figured I would share.

[SideShow Bob]

Tmckay2
Though we are on the same page as far as the laughing at and then patting the so called Tweeker on the back during a hostile situation. I have come to the realization that:
" You Can't Fix Stupid !"
As quoted from one of the Redneck Comedy tour comedians. ( I can't recall which one.)
If everyone else wants to think this is still the 60s and look at the world through their rose colored glasses & have group hugs. And think that it is fine to get in a hostile situation with a possible Meth Head, then laugh at him and pat him on the back, so be it ! Most likely sooner than later they will suffer the consequences.

Let this this thread go, it should have died off a long time ago, as I said earlier," You Can't Fix Stupid."

[TFOGGER]

Maybe instead of patting the guy on the shoulder, he should have done the 3 stooges nose pull...

[tmleadr03]

How so? I said I am kind of the same way, I'll do that with my friends, or people at gatherings of mutual friends and it contrasts in no way to what I was saying earlier...

You have stated quite a few times there is nothing threatening about putting your arm on someone or patting them on the shoulder then you state "but once in that position it's quite easy to subdue someone without too much pain inflicted."

These two statements are contradictory. It is either a threat or it is not. In the context of what we are talking about it would be considered a threat if you can subdue me from the position of having your hand on my shoulder or back.

You have by your own statement invalidated your argument that there is nothing threatening about patting someone on the shoulder/back.

[tmleadr03]

So, lets just say someone pissed you off by doing something you thought was stupid (everyone has their own things) and you call them an asshole and walk away. As you start to walk away, you feel the other guy touch your shoulder. What do you do? Remember, you have already reached the point of name calling.

Honestly, if my back is turned and you touch me, you are at least getting an arm bar. I will probably not swing but rather put you in a hold that doesn't quite hurt you so I can ask what the hell you think you are doing touching me. In the real world, all around us, people hurt and kill other people for a lot less. Now I would have already had to have been in a bad mood for me to have acted like this (easily reached the point of name calling, bad days happen). Shit happens like misunderstandings every day, just be smart, don't touch someone who is already pissed off.

How do we know the other guy was a druggie again? He could have just been someone in a bad mood, or someone who is a little touchy.

[sniper7]

not sure if anyone posted it yet but:

PICS or it didn't happen.

[sniper7]

as far as my input, I think it is a great story. not sure what I would have done since I wasn't there, but if you dropped him cold, good on ya. hopefully you got your dogs and rolled out.

If patting him on the back is considered starting an altercation then the next TSA that touches me will be in a world of hurt!

now him taking a swing at you (with witnesses) will put you in self defense. him also complaining about your dogs started the altercation initially. PETA will back you.

[MrPrena]

Where was this at?

[Irving]

Where was this at?

Boarder fence in New Mexico. Also, the whole conversation happened in Spanish.