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    They were doing these "joint effort" things out east earlier in the year (maybe late last year) if I remember correctly. Raised a lot of eyebrows......at that time it was explained away as training for emergencies or something like that. I think its going to be an interesting next couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    Could it be they are there to observe and see how a DUI checkpoint is run? There are very specific rules that have to be followed in order to ensure the legality of the whole endeavor and one would not want to try to run one of their own without the benefit of watching/participating in one prior.
    I've always wondered about the legality of DUI check points. Could you post some more information about what you are talking about please?
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    I know they have to announce them prior via mainstream media...think newspaper. Something to do with entrapment maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I've always wondered about the legality of DUI check points. Could you post some more information about what you are talking about please?
    Stu, It's been awhile since I've been involved in one, but there is a lot of planning that has to go into them. Safe areas for pulling over, escape routes (there has to be a way for vehicles to avoid it), systematic vehicles through the checkpoint (you can't pull everyone over; its more like pulling 10 vehicles in at a time, allow traffic to continue to flow and then pull 10 more in once the first 10 are done), flyers to be handed out, media involvement, etc. I'm sure there are Google searches that can be done that will outline more details, but these are off the top of my head from working them years ago.
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    There was a DUI check point in front of my house last month. They definitely pulled over EVERY car. Interesting that they are supposed to allow escape routes. If you tried to turn around before a check point, wouldn't they just chase you down?
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    It has to be systematic in their approach meaning they can't pick and choose which vehicles to pull over. If they pulled them all over, well, it fits, but I've not been a part of one that did that. A busy street will have vehicles backed up for miles.

    They need to post it on the roadway and after the posting, have a street or exit that can be used to allow vehicles to not access the checkpoint. We used CDOT electronic signs and allowed vehicles to exit off the roadway onto another road. Those that pull a U-turn are usually stopped. The difference between them and the vehicle exiting after the signage? I don't know.
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    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    What they did was cut all the traffic to one lane, had about ten officers standing roadside, and would let through ten cars at a time. I stopped for the traffic at the very end of the group in front of me, then had to stop at the first officer in the line when I went through. I was happy to see that he didn't seem very comfortable being there, and did his best to get me on my way asap. Maybe he could sense that I wasn't happy about being stopped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    Those that pull a U-turn are usually stopped. The difference between them and the vehicle exiting after the signage? I don't know.

    Maybe since they already proved they weren't paying attention by not seeing the signs on the way to the checkpoint LOL

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    Yep, you're right they are SF now... I still slip back into the old school acronyms now and then. Just too many penguins on the ice berg anymore.

    I was stationed at Buckley for over 4 years as OSI from 2002 to 2007. I'm very familiar with the bases population. I won't go into numbers at all, Opsec, but I'll stand by my previous statement that there are very few "soldiers" on Buckley.

    Regardless, military police forces working stuff like this isn't as uncommon as one might believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I've always wondered about the legality of DUI check points. Could you post some more information about what you are talking about please?
    IMO, It appears that the civilian's right to travel are not "really" violated if the majority of the civilian's have their rights violated. "Look, everyone else is doing it so just keep your head down and you will be through this if we can't find anything on you." After all, this is for our safety and the funding of our cities and State.

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