I spoke with the people at Kel-Tec it will be awhile before you see them on the shelf maybe never, I bought mine for 500 used I just put up an add on Armslist wtb PMR30 and 2 weeks later I had one. It has at least 7000 rounds through it and the onlything I had to do is put in a new firing pin, Kel-tec customer service is amazing. I want the RMR30 that should be out next year and I think the KSG is out now just a long waiting list, I did not get a chance to get one like I got my TCM.