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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    When a foreign organization kills 3000 Americans and your response is "Well I wouldn't do nothin' 'bout that" you lose. Period.
    Drop some bombs on them and that's enough for me. I don't see how a ten year (and counting), trillion dollar nation building adventure benefits the USA at all.

    I say rock on Ron Paul!

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    I've said it once and I'll say it again, no functioning, safe government/nation (as seen in American eyes) will ever exist in the current area mapped as Afghanistan. To try and prop up a pro-US government that is extremist free is an exercise in futility; ask the British, ask the Russians, shit look at the past ten years and ask yourself. And the whole as many boots on the ground as you can get and bomb the shit out of everything approach doesn't exactly make too many friends either.

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    I like Ron Paul. A lot.

    My first reaction to his Mexican border policy was: Whoah! But after giving it some thought... why are they coming here? Is it the cheap hard work? Not really and even if that's it it's nowhere near as much of a drain on our economy as the free medical care and social programs. That's why they come here ultimately. Cut off the social handouts for anyone/everyone and end the war on drugs and the prices of these items plummets making it not worth all the effort, money and lives to traffic. Suddenly the giant fence to the moon on the southern border isn't as necessary. Some of the things RP says seem a bit extreme compared to what we're all used to but if you really think about them with an open mind it seems the ideas that stand out the most to me at first become the ideas I like the most after I think about them more.

    I realize this is all more than a single term could accomplish but if we can get things headed in the right direction it's what this country needs. I don't see anyone else willing to do what's right for this country first and foremost.

    Our country needs change if it's going to survive. I'm talking about real change here and not political 'change'.
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    I think people come here to make money and send it home to their family more than they come here for free health insurance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I think people come here to make money and send it home to their family more than they come here for free health insurance.
    This is obe of the reasons. I believe that money ahould stay in our economy instead of being shipped out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I think people come here to make money and send it home to their family more than they come here for free health insurance.
    You think they would risk coming here to work for $5/hr doing manual labor if a simple injury could cost them $10k+ the way it does us?
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    OK...the MSM is picking up the story about Ron Paul being ignored by the MSM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    You think they would risk coming here to work for $5/hr doing manual labor if a simple injury could cost them $10k+ the way it does us?
    Yes absolutely. But this isn't the thread for it.
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