Obama On Terrorism

[BushMasterBoy]

recently stated

[jhood001]

I'm thinking somebody on here needs to educate me regarding the allegedly evil and sinister Iran.

I personally think the notion is absolutely ridiculous and anyone that actually believes they would, let alone could do anything to the US homeland is simply buying into a massive lobbying effort by AIPAC and other more imperialistic minded lobbies. Regardless, maybe there is something I'm missing?

What is the basis for branding Iran as our new bogeyman?
What historical precedence is there for believing they have any hegemonic ambition whatsoever (within 200 years, please)?
What makes them more scary than the PRK?

Perhaps I'm missing something. And whether I disagree or agree with any evidence, or even opinions provided, I would still love to hear what some of us here think.

[Mazin]

Have you heard anything the Iranian President has said in the last couple years?

Have you heard of the "Great & little Satans"?

Just saying....

[Marlin]

Israel may deal with "I'm a nut job" long before he can do anything here.

I'm fairly sure the Massad could tell you how many times a day he picks his nose.

[BPTactical]

Sounds like somebody is setting the table for a semi auto and high cap mag ban.
Play on the peoples fears to further your agenda.
Classic Cloward and Piven.
"Never let a good crisis go to waste"








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[Bailey Guns]

I'm thinking somebody on here needs to educate me regarding the allegedly evil and sinister Iran.

I personally think the notion is absolutely ridiculous and anyone that actually believes they would, let alone could do anything to the US homeland is simply buying into a massive lobbying effort by AIPAC and other more imperialistic minded lobbies. Regardless, maybe there is something I'm missing?

What is the basis for branding Iran as our new bogeyman?
What historical precedence is there for believing they have any hegemonic ambition whatsoever (within 200 years, please)?
What makes them more scary than the PRK?

Perhaps I'm missing something. And whether I disagree or agree with any evidence, or even opinions provided, I would still love to hear what some of us here think.

Oh, yeah. You're missing something.

The whole issue of the dangers a nuclear Iran (and of course, a nuclear Korea in that region) poses to not just the US, but the middle east, Israel and many parts of the world has been discussed here and elsewhere, in the news, in books and many other venues ad-nauseum. If you haven't picked up on it before I doubt you'd pick up on it now.

Maybe you just disagree that it would be a problem, which is fine. But pretending that Iran hasn't been a problem for the US in the past is ridiculous.

And BTW... Iran has only been an Islamic state for about the last 30-ish years.

[Bailey Guns]

OK...let me see if I've got this straight. If I believe Ahmadinejad wants to destroy Israel or kill jews it's because I'm buying "into a massive lobbying effort by AIPAC and other more imperialistic minded lobbies."

But if you don't believe that's the case it's because you've done independent research and don't approve of the way the US conducts affairs in oil-rich areas of the world.

Got it.

Regardless, maybe there is something I'm missing?

Yeah. Credibility.

[ronaldrwl]

Terrorist are just 'folks'. Right?

[jhood001]

Terrorist are just 'folks'. Right?

Not in my book. They're evil bastards. But by weighing in with this comment, are you implying that Iranians are terrorists?

[Bailey Guns]

I've done a little research from the article that was C&P'd above re: what Ahmadinejad actually said. I can't find a lot about Arash Norouzi...except he's really popular on sites like the DailyKos and HuffPo.

I guess that explains why I haven't read or heard much about him.

As a matter of fact, every place I found that article published was a far left, anti-war website of one sort or another. Granted, I didn't look at every single result.

So I'm hopeful if you'll forgive me for thinking you're just a little disingenuous and quite hypocritical by posting:

...anyone that actually believes they would, let alone could do anything to the US homeland is simply buying into a massive lobbying effort by AIPAC and other more imperialistic minded lobbies.

It's obvious that you're simply buying into the same lobbying effort from the far left if you can't see the ultimate wish of Ahmadinejad is to destroy the Jews, specifically those in Israel.

You can pick nits all you like...it doesn't change the basic premise of what he said.