Read your article. And read a few other things along the way. Learned a few things specifically about Israel's non-aggression policies. One being, that I had always believed that Israel started the 7 Day War. They definitely shot first, but it seems justified to me now. I didn't know they had so much hostile force stacked up on their borders just waiting for the word. I still believe they take their pre-emption a little further than they should, but given the history there... I don't blame them... anymore.

In regards to the Saudi's expressing that they will be forced to develop nuclear weapons in response to Iran acquiring them-
I agree that it is pretty telling to just how worrisome Iran is to nations in that region and as such, I agree more now that they are a threat to that region. Although the comments in the linked article talking about how the Saudi's have never worried about Israel because of their record of non-agression is bullshit in my opinion. Saudi Arabia isn't worried about Israel because of the U.S.'s relationship with both of them and for no other reason. That is simply my opinion though.

Ahmadinedjad's rhetoric does seem to be getting out of hand. Some of you pointed out some things I had never seen before. I'm not sure if he is acting as the voice for Iran's leadership when he say's those things or not, but he's their mouth-piece so I suppose I need to take what he says with some more gravity. I'll also say that I think a lot of what that twit says is more for rallying his own power-base in what I've read is becoming a real contest for future control of the country. Allah-willing, the Ayatollah will drop that moron in a very deep and dark hole in the near future and start having their other leaders play nice with their neighbors.

In regards to your super-sleuth liberal detection, Mr. Bailey Guns:

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Well, let's see:
  • You've accused those of us who believe Israel's existence is jeopardized by Iran of basically being brainwashed by AIPAC and other "imperialistic minded lobbies".
That wasn't my intent if that is what you got out of my statements. I was specifically talking about Iran as a threat to the US. Not her allies or interests and I will stand behind my statement that conversation regarding Iran as a threat to the US does originate from those sources. 'Brainwashed' is your word.

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  • Most conservatives see Iran as a threat.
Well if everyone else is doing it, I better get with the herd! Give me some time to work on my 'baaaaaaah's and grow my wool out.
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Seriously?

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  • You used the term "imperialistic minded lobbies". Don't think I've ever heard anyone on the right use that term...unless quoting a liberal that used it.
Identifying certain lobbies as 'imperialistic' is a liberal thing? What should I have called them? The desire to spread the influence of the United States throughout the world and over other countries is imperialism. I think calling a rock a rock isn't liberal, conservative, or anything else other than maybe 'smart'.

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  • When others have opinions to you it's simply "rhetoric", even though you say you're interested in other views...classic liberal tactic.
No. Something that someone states is an opinion of theirs is an opinion to me. In this discussion, I called What Ahmadinedjad say's on a continuing basis to be 'rhetoric'. He's standing on a pedestal spewing varying degrees of bullshit to his followers. How is that not rhetoric, man? And further, how does your misunderstanding of the english language constitute any sort of 'tactic' on my behalf?

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  • There have been several rational explanations as why a nuclear-armed Iran is a threat and you've simply not responded to them or dismissed them.
Pretty sure I said this -

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So you're presenting the case that that if they get nukes, their leaders are crazy enough to use them on us or our allies through a proxy. And by using a proxy, they can somehow stay out of our crosshairs for retaliation. I can buy into that.
in direct response to a quote that gave just such a rational explanation.
Reading comprehension for the win.

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  • You like Mosin-Nagant commie rifles.
I consider them to be prisoners of war, honest. Ignore the fact that I keep them in the same place as their american counter-parts.



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  • OK...just kidding on the last one.
I know.