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    Oh, I guess it is about that time for this thread again. It's been what, a month?

    Find what the guy named after a knife said, he's correct.
    Keep Calm and Carry.

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    I think you misunderstood me.

    What I'm saying is this. Let's say King Soopers up here had a sign at the front doors saying, "No firearms allowed in store" The sign was posted not 4' X 3' or something, but a placard at the two entrance doors - maybe 6" X 6". Any customer entering through a reasonable entrance would thus have to walk by it. If it is in good repair and legible, I would consider it valid.

    Let's say that the manager called in because somebody appealed to be carrying a concealed weapon. We will assume he is a licensed CCW who just makes a poor wardrobe choice and displays his weapon accidentally, and the manager is an anti-gun worrier. I meet the gentleman outside, as he is leaving. There are no mishaps, and he presents me with his CCW.

    IF (here is the if) the manager wanted me to write him for trespassing, because he walked past a sign saying, "No firearms allowed in store" and during the duration of his visit he was in violation of the property owner's wishes I would absolutely write him a ticket. Is it really "fair"? No, but he walked past a legible sign.

    If the manager just wanted me to safely address the man, and ask him not to carry his firearm back into the store, I would do that as well.

    It all comes down to what the private property owner wants and what is reasonable. In this case, I might assume the CCW holder will fight the ticket and I may photograph the signs to show that they were, indeed posted and visible at the time of the incident, and submit those into evidence. Your example of 6pt font is a little ridiculous - that clearly wouldn't be legible. I'm saying that if there was a legible sign posted at every entrance, and there was a call for service, and a building manager asked me to cite the person (meaning they would be listed as the trespassing victim and thus may be asked to testify), I would do it.

    I would hate it, but I would do it. I think the onus is on us as responsible gun owners to try to act in accordance with property owners' wishes so we don't give people any more reason to hate us.

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    We need a reality show called extreme CCW make over. Where the host surprises the mark and takes them on a shopping trip to pick out appropriate jackets and shirts that hide the IWB holsters.
    Who are you to want to escape a thugs bullet? That is only a personal prejudice, ( Atlas Shrugged)
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