Toyota Tacoma upgrades

[Zundfolge]

How do you square "Buy American" with capitalism?

You can't.

Trade protectionism is Crony Capitalism.

Crony Capitalism is Fascism without the snappy uniforms, military parades and death camps.


Also, if you're politically conservative you are acting AGAINST the interests of capitalism, the constitution and conservatism in general when you buy an American car made by UAW workers.

The UAW is simply a fundraising organ for the DNC.

If you wish to ascribe some sort of patriotic label to your purchases, buying a Toyota made by free workers in a free state is more American than supporting a bunch of communist union thugs in Fascist Detroit.

[Lex_Luthor]

I've always bought Honda and Toyota because in the class of vehicle I was looking for, they worked the best. I want an Element too.

[Chad4000]

The union bit I get... In agreement on that. But unions were another good idea that got perverted by power..

Anyway, the quality thing I dont... The big three have good cars these days... Just saying let them compete

[streetglideok]

I see better steel on Big 3 vehicles then I ever do on japanese companies. I see equal quality on american as well. Lots of dirty secrets the media wont talk about when it comes to toyota, honda, nissan, etc. Toyota, and their v6 engine in camrys and avalons, sludging up due to a poor pcv design, and large numbers of engine failures at low miles. Frames breaking on toyota trucks from mild rust. Hondas blowing out seals and losing oil. Toyotas and rampant headgasket failures. The import shops stay busy fixing a long list of common engine problems that somehow, the customers accept. If it was an american car, they would scream bloody murder. Another thing about consumer habits I see, import owners follow scheduled maint. more closely then american brand owners. Youll see japanese brand owners come in wanting their brake fluid flushed, ask about doing a timing belt, etc, but rarely ever on american brand owners. They drive them till the wheels fall off. That makes a difference on how people percieve a brand. Expectations that exceed the design.

[mts7]

It's funny how the original poster requested information about upgrades for his vehicle, and now we have a conversation about manufacturing/company origins and politics. I wonder if every topic goes so astray here.

[streetglideok]

Wouldnt say its too offtopic, he left the door open with a rant about american vehicles.

[ChadAmberg]

I've had an Element since 2003 and I've had so much maintenance done to it. It had to have at least 6 or 7 oil changes. Oh, and new tires. That's it.

And considering I've grown up near Chrysler/Dodge and Chevy plants, and have had many relatives and friends I used to party with working at all the plants... I will never own one since I know how they're put together.

[streetglideok]

Might find it ironic, but the same thing goes on at all plants. Must not have many miles on that Element yet? Just remember, living in the mile high state, you fall closer to severe maint, not normal. High altitude, steep hills in town, hot and cold weather, and traffic arent the norm according to Honda.

[spyder]

It's funny how the original poster requested information about upgrades for his vehicle, and now we have a conversation about manufacturing/company origins and politics. I wonder if every topic goes so astray here.

Ya, pretty much. Everyone just looks for the chance to turn each thread into something else.

[Zundfolge]

It's funny how the original poster requested information about upgrades for his vehicle, and now we have a conversation about manufacturing/company origins and politics. I wonder if every topic goes so astray here.

Seeing as how you're just a newbie who's only been here for two days I guess I should cut you some slack, but if you expect any thread here to stay "on topic" you're in the wrong place

ADD got nothing on this bunch.


So in conclusion, here's a bunny with a pancake on its head.