Help me out here...

[DANGERTASTIC!]

Im with you all the way on this one. Its like you were describing me at my place of work. How about getting chastized for not showing up to these social functions! This happened to me Monday morning when I didnt make it to the "annual BBQ", it was our sons Bday party.

And how about after you get after someone for not doing their job and they look at you like you're the biggest ass in the world. I feel ya

[Mtn.man]

We have em, but hell we are all crazy bike riding drunk fuk'n sons o bitches and not showing up means death, or worse.

[Mtn.man]

On the other hand maybe at our next PIG roast all you guys need to show up.

[DSB OUTDOORS]

On the other hand maybe at our next PIG roast all you guys need to show up.

WoooHooo party at Mtn.mans!! Let me know I'm there!! Let me know what kind of BEER to bring other than Cold!

[Mtn.man]

Will do we usually have one in May, ok always. But we are thinking of having an end of summer one this year sooo yeah will let you guys know.

[Wolfeie]

Mev - please tell me you were kidding about expecting a tip for delivering a hot tub.

I'm a generous guy and all but it would NEVER cross my mind to "tip" a delivery person for a big ticket item - especially where the item is non-functional without delivery/setup. And no, I'm not talking about a pizza.

I guarantee that if I ever got any lip from a delivery person about no tip of a hard item (appliance, hot tub, etc) they would get an earfull as well as written complaint to their manager and preferably the owner of whatever shop.

Entitlement is out of line for doing your job.

Back on topic: Lack of self-esteem is one of the worst afflictions of this country and people who expect to hang or be friends with you outside of work suffer from this ailment. Ignore them and do your thing.

[theGinsue]

I agree with your OP Mev. In fact I had similar discussion like this @ work today with other members of my team.

I'm a government contractor and Friday the unit is having it's annual picnic. I NEVER go to the picnic's, Christmas party, etc. and only rarely go to "going away arties" - only then for folks I really like or someone on my team.

It bothers me that my company "strongly encourages" us to attend these events - telling us it's team building with the customer, etc. But, this is always followed up with "but this is not billable time".

So, let me get this straight... I'm encouraged to attend to help the company by building better relationships with the customer and other corporate team members. My behavior/appearance at these events will be judged just the same as if I were at work - and could negatively impact my employment. I'm expected to pay my own way for entry/participation - and all this without getting paid for it?

Naw. I'm already scheduled to be off work Friday and I think I'll enjoy the time AWAY from those I work with and maybe get a few things accomplished that I need to tend to. (Plus my wife is off that day too and wants to go for a drive in the mtn's).

[Irving]

I think you're supposed to tip everyone who delivers things. Movers, appliance guys, tow truck drivers, etc. Not saying that I agree with it, just the way society is.

Mevshooter: I feel for your situation man. I've got enough friends and would rather hang out with my family. I'm open and very friendly, but I'm pretty leary of "work friends" any more. I bet the owner and your boss are the same type of guys who expect you to do that gay little bathroom dance about peeing a certain amount of toilets away from the next guy peeing. Those types of people piss me off. I really can't say anything that hasn't already been said. Good luck I guess.

[DANGERTASTIC!]

What is it with people today getting butthurt so easy? Everyone gets offended or someone callin you "Asshole" an sayin "You need to apologize to him!" To HIM! Why is everyone so overly sensitive???

I never had anyone go easy on me or follow me around holding my hand or wiping my ass.

Must be nicelol

[mevshooter]

Mev - please tell me you were kidding about expecting a tip for delivering a hot tub.

I was COMPLETELY kidding about THAT specific instance.

I NEVER expect a tip. HOWEVER, when someone has a delivery that is ABOVE AND BEYOND what any "regular person" would consider reasonable, which happens A LOT with an, on average, 850+ (now upwards of 1600 for a swim spa) pound item that, contrary to the popular opinion of people who have never had to move the things, can be very difficult and bulky to move, tips do make things "all better."

I don't have an entitlement issue with my job, but people who expect the world to cater to their incredibly stupid choice of landscaping, choice of a narrow gate, decision to put a hot tub on an upper deck and NOT want to pay for a crane, expect my crew and myself to "level" their intended area for spa placement, or decision to live on a mountain side with absolutely no access, is just as much of an entitlement issue as people who expect a tip for making my coffee or burrito. Or people who expect to pay LESS and get more. It's a two way street with this issue most definitely.

And as far as the "no set up" comment, I can tell you for an item that's "not set up," I sure have had to spend literally HOURS with people answering questions. Which is above and beyond my job description. And our company specializes in "wet starts" where we either wait for the electrician to wire the tub or come back on a different day, fill it for them, get it running, set up the filter cycles, ad chemicals, etc, that DEFINITELY falls into a "big ticket item" that's set up.

We're not running some rinky dink spa moving operation where I work. We definitely do the whole "shabang."

But I digress.

Damn bastards at work!

There, back on topic.