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    Default Job Killing Illegals

    It gets real tough to hold to your beliefs when it hits your pocket book. I'm getting some work done on the house and have been collecting quotes. Here is a real example:

    Non-citizens quotes for a job $800, and $1150.
    US-citizen quote: $1850.

    I didn't even take quotes from another half-dozen other Mexicans. I could only find one American in my area listed on Craig's List (brick work).

    Dang it hurts; but I'm going with the American even at twice the price. I told the guy the situation and he says he deals with it every day. The Mexicans bid real low. And after 17 years it's getting harder and harder to get jobs. He agreed to take $200 off and do it for $1650. And did I mention he speaks perfect English?
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    Keep in mind that 9 times out of 10 the $800 job done by the illegal will need to be redone in a few short years by the $1850 citizen.

    I know the stereotype is that all the general contractors love the cheap Mexican labor, but I know plenty of contractors that refuse to hire illegals because most of them do crap work.

    If you need a ditch dug or some trash hauled off, sure they'll do just fine. But for skilled work, don't scrimp.
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    my wife was recently replaced by an illegal she was making 15$ an hour he came in and was happy for 5 an hour

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    Thanks for "going with the gringo" (nobody get pissy here - I'm referring to citizenship, not race). You put your money where your mouth is

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    Just watched an all Hispanic crew put my neighbors new roof on and I wondered exactly how many of them had real documents...?
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    Well, I was hopeing for a warm euphoric wave of goodness to envelope me. But I guess that only works for liberal nut jobs that are saving the planet. I'll be satisfied at trying to do the right thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    Just watched an all Hispanic crew put my neighbors new roof on and I wondered exactly how many of them had real documents...?
    I need a new roof on my house, I have the insurance check and the ok to commence with the work. I have had 5 roofing contractors give me bids and not one has been able to guarantee me that their crews are composed of lawful aliens with work visa's or residents.
    They will not be working on my house.
    Looks like when it cools down a touch I will be roofing the place.



    This is where it starts people. If we as citizens refuse to do business with firms that employ illegal workers the business owners will get the hint (hopefully).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentonite View Post
    Thanks for "going with the gringo" (nobody get pissy here - I'm referring to citizenship, not race). You put your money where your mouth is
    Yea, thanks for 'going with the Gringo'- Get as pissy as you want. The older I get, the more tribal I get. So what?

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    +1 you hit the nail on the head.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Keep in mind that 9 times out of 10 the $800 job done by the illegal will need to be redone in a few short years by the $1850 citizen.

    I know the stereotype is that all the general contractors love the cheap Mexican labor, but I know plenty of contractors that refuse to hire illegals because most of them do crap work.

    If you need a ditch dug or some trash hauled off, sure they'll do just fine. But for skilled work, don't scrimp.

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    Good for you for hiring the legal guy and paying a little more. I know your pain.

    I needed 1200 sq ft of concrete in my barn. Got several bids, many from people I suspected...don't know for sure...were illegal. The lower end bids were around the $3800 range. I went with a local guy, a real-life American, and paid him about $6000.

    He did a fantastic job and, while I could've used the extra money, I'm glad I didn't have a bunch of illegal aliens taking money away from legal folks.
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