Parents!!! Bug Out, Hold up?

[tmckay2]

Our plan is to turn our home into a fortress. We have a large supply of food and other supplies to stay in our home if it is possible. We also have the firepower to deter anyone that would like to attempt entrance into our property. If staying in our home is not an option than we have plans for that as well.

and if they light it on fire from the outside?

to me bugging out is almost always the best option, unless you live in the middle of nowhere or at the very least outside of town. if you live in a populated area its a huge risk staying, and if you decide to stay you are likely stuck there after the first few days to a week. i get the draw to stay. it seems like a great storage place, easily fortifiable, etc. but i think if you sit and think about all the things potential perps could do to your house from the outside that you would have no control over and in the end basically be stuck, bugging out seems safer. my plan would be to get out of town and into the mountains via back roads. you wouldn't even have to go that far in to be much, much safer. itll be the last place people will search for goods and the like. would probably be months upon months before anyone would think about coming out that way, not until all of the supplies in town are dried up.

also, once stationed outside of town, it would be easy to run recon and make sure people aren't moving into your area. if you have a plan as to what to pack in your car and how to do it, you could bug out within 30 minutes and have a very nice stock of food, at least a few months worth, water, shelter, weapons, etc. i get why people stock up on 2-3 years worth of food, but frankly i don't think its likely youd need more than 6 months. if you don't have a significant plan for food after even just one month, you are an idiot anyways and won't make it. the extra food would make things easier and less stressful, but also makes you less mobile. just my opinion of course.

all of this being said, i have seriously considered custom building my house (when i buy one in the next 5-10 years) with concrete frame, bulletproof doors and windowns, a bunker in the basement with escape hatch, the whole works. if you buy a smaller sized place its not as expensive as youd assume. also, i would build it somewhere in the foothills in case escape is absolutely necessary.

anyone ever consider armored vehicles? ive tossed it around a bit in my mind. some humvee's are street legal and armored, you just have to look hard. v100 commandos are street legal in most cases although those are much more expensive, more in the 80k range. even a ferret might be useful.

[SA Friday]

I'm outa here... The front range would become chaos followed by famine and then disease. King Soopers and Wally world will turn into shooting galleries and gas stations will become fight clubs till all the stuff is gone.

I've been doing a lot of prepping lately. If I can't drive there I'll walk there, but I have a location that's sustainable and stocked. The move would be with my family, and the preparations for a walk with them have started.

The biggest thing I can think of is prestaging your stuff where you are going if you leave. The more you have to carry, the crappier it will be.

[Irving]

and if they light it on fire from the outside?

to me bugging out is almost always the best option, unless you live in the middle of nowhere or at the very least outside of town. if you live in a populated area its a huge risk staying, and if you decide to stay you are likely stuck there after the first few days to a week. i get the draw to stay. it seems like a great storage place, easily fortifiable, etc. but i think if you sit and think about all the things potential perps could do to your house from the outside that you would have no control over and in the end basically be stuck, bugging out seems safer. my plan would be to get out of town and into the mountains via back roads. you wouldn't even have to go that far in to be much, much safer. itll be the last place people will search for goods and the like. would probably be months upon months before anyone would think about coming out that way, not until all of the supplies in town are dried up.

also, once stationed outside of town, it would be easy to run recon and make sure people aren't moving into your area. if you have a plan as to what to pack in your car and how to do it, you could bug out within 30 minutes and have a very nice stock of food, at least a few months worth, water, shelter, weapons, etc. i get why people stock up on 2-3 years worth of food, but frankly i don't think its likely youd need more than 6 months. if you don't have a significant plan for food after even just one month, you are an idiot anyways and won't make it. the extra food would make things easier and less stressful, but also makes you less mobile. just my opinion of course.

all of this being said, i have seriously considered custom building my house (when i buy one in the next 5-10 years) with concrete frame, bulletproof doors and windowns, a bunker in the basement with escape hatch, the whole works. if you buy a smaller sized place its not as expensive as youd assume. also, i would build it somewhere in the foothills in case escape is absolutely necessary.

anyone ever consider armored vehicles? ive tossed it around a bit in my mind. some humvee's are street legal and armored, you just have to look hard. v100 commandos are street legal in most cases although those are much more expensive, more in the 80k range. even a ferret might be useful.

Why do you think that your bug out tent/cabin/etc would be any more defensible, or fireproof, than your home? What will you do when they set it on fire from the outside?

Why do you think that people won't be going to the mountains? EVERYONE with a 4 wheel drive will be heading toward the mountains.

Why do you think that the people already occupying the foothills are just going to let you into their area? I've got a cabin on the other side of the divide, but I'm hardly there, and the locals sure as hell wouldn't let me get there.

[OutdoorsNative]

I wasn't trying to say I would stay in my home no matter what. Whatever situation you are dealing with will decide what you do. I will say I wouldn't be bugging out without giving it some thought. I treat my home like a base. I am well prepared to deter any threats and if the situation called for it I am prepared to not allow anyone to get close to it.

[tmckay2]

I never said a tent was more fireproof. The idea is to get away from people so it doran have to be. I'm not going to pitch it in someones front yard in the foothills where do you get this stuff? I'm just saying you don't need to drive 5 hours in to the mountains. Two hours in would be plenty to find a desolate place. And FYI the others going there in the four wheel drive vehicles are likely semi preppers themselves. Libtards will stay in town and wait for daddy government to come back. Those are the ones you have to worry about. Those are the first to get violent when all the sudden they have to be self reliant. Those are the people you avoid. Also there is plenty of real estate in he mountains to hide you just have to look into it

Why do you think that your bug out tent/cabin/etc would be any more defensible, or fireproof, than your home? What will you do when they set it on fire from the outside?

Why do you think that people won't be going to the mountains? EVERYONE with a 4 wheel drive will be heading toward the mountains.

Why do you think that the people already occupying the foothills are just going to let you into their area? I've got a cabin on the other side of the divide, but I'm hardly there, and the locals sure as hell wouldn't let me get there.

[2008f450]

We would stay put as long as possible. If that wouldnt work we head toward plan B which is stocked almost as well as home. If that didnt work we go mobile. I think a lot of the general public (unprepared) will bug out to family, friends, or other locations first. so staying put would be a better first choice for us. Just arm the wife,the kids,give them radios,and rely on the plan to keep us safe.

[Bootifus]

I think there are many scenarios that I would stay put, and a few that I actually would break for the hills. I have 3 boys (10, 3 and 1.5). The eldest could hang pretty well in a survival situation, but the others are too young to haul out of the house for any but the direst of situations.
The current plan is to find 100 acres to split with a good local friend. I would stock that location and feel comfortable taking the boys there. but until that time, I think we are most apt to hold up at home.

[tmckay2]

We would stay put as long as possible. If that wouldnt work we head toward plan B which is stocked almost as well as home. If that didnt work we go mobile. I think a lot of the general public (unprepared) will bug out to family, friends, or other locations first. so staying put would be a better first choice for us. Just arm the wife,the kids,give them radios,and rely on the plan to keep us safe.

i think most unprepared people would sit still thinking it will all blow over. most think this is america and it can never happen, so if it did, at first theyd assume it will blow over. the trick with these scenarios is you have to get out at the right time or you won't be able to get out (though being in loveland is a hell of a lot safer than denver). sitting around for a bit isn't a bad idea, but its a bit dangerous, you gotta make sure you don't wait too long. id try to get out asap and check back periodically to see if it blew over. living in denver id be too afraid id get stuck here and be screwed.

[Prometheus]

It all depends on the situation, if the government is the attacker you cant hide in the cities. But like an EMP and its better to stay at home as long as possible, when out of supplies head to more firtile ground. Natural disaster stay at home also, you just have to plan at least 3 different options and pick the best one. Sometimes north or east would be better options.

[tmckay2]

I guess I was assuming a governmental and economic collapse. Others probably were thinking diff scenarios