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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    We should listen to Ron White and his idea to sell a chunk of florida to Israel, buy mexico, fix it up...then flip it!

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    I disagree with irv.

    illegal immigrants should not receive any rights or protections of the constitution (and neither should terrorists)

    but our system is severely broken and needs to be fixed.

    people who want to be citizens should not have to wait 15 years and pay thousands of dollars.

    make the path to citizenship fair and efficient, then secure the borders and punish the lawbreakers harshly, and the immigration problem will be fixed.

    but hey, I think we should invade the 9 northernmost states of mexico and make them our own, bringing the full might of the military down on the drug cartels.

    reconquista my ass.

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    If we don't give them the protections of our constitution, whose constitution will we give them rights under? I agree with the rest of what you said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    If we don't give them the protections of our constitution, whose constitution will we give them rights under? I agree with the rest of what you said.
    Ummm none?
    All humans have certain unalienable rights... such as the right to life. That does not include the right to our jobs, our tax dollars, free education, and all the other bullshit they're "entitled" to.
    They are NOT Americans. They should NOT get the benefits that tax paying American citizens have access to. The only thing I want my tax dollars being spent on in regards to illegals is A) Jail time or B) Deportation

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantar18c View Post
    Ummm none?
    All humans have certain unalienable rights... such as the right to life. That does not include the right to our jobs, our tax dollars, free education, and all the other bullshit they're "entitled" to.
    They are NOT Americans. They should NOT get the benefits that tax paying American citizens have access to. The only thing I want my tax dollars being spent on in regards to illegals is A) Jail time or B) Deportation
    None of those things have anything to do with the article though. You can't consider an illegal a war criminal. Let's at least be realistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    None of those things have anything to do with the article though. You can't consider an illegal a war criminal. Let's at least be realistic.
    not here in the u.s. but are there not a few americans who are none combatants that are locked up for less and pretty stiff sentences at that . im not disagreeing with you , im just puttin that out there is all

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    I know that there are, but as we've all already agreed upon, we don't want to lower ourselves to how someone like China or Iran treat people. If we want to be the best country, we have to accept that it's not always easy or cool. Just like being a good boss, cop, or parent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    If we don't give them the protections of our constitution, whose constitution will we give them rights under? I agree with the rest of what you said.
    I think give them the same rights as captured war criminals. They are not citizens and did not earn or work for those rights. After all I consider them invading the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    I think give them the same rights as captured war criminals. They are not citizens and did not earn or work for those rights. After all I consider them invading the country.
    this ^ when my great grand father came here without papers the us gov had a great idea and gave him a choice . 1 ether go to prison (forced labor 15yrs ) 2 go fight for our friend (at the time ) mussolini for 5 years then he could come back as an american . you guessed right if you think he went back to italy and invaded north africa then waited to get captured (keep in mind he was only there to become an american) . so i guess what im saying is maybe all these mexicans who want to be here soooo bad should go to afghaninam and pay there dues before they can be americans . i think the system is bull ka ka and we should stop rewarding illegals with school , jobs and prison (yes prison , 3 hots and a cot on our dime )

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    Illegals come here for a couple of reasons, one is to work (steal jobs from Americans) and the other is to cash in with our generous welfare state (steal money from Americans). Their anchor babies get free school and medical, they ride their babies for WIC, free or low cost housing, and free medical.

    Illegal aliens are no longer simple immigrants looking to improve their lives by assimilating into the American culture, working hard to achieve the American dream. They are an invading army and in 20 years the entire southwest will have spanish as the primary language and YOUR children will be subject to the rules of a 3rd world shithole.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...aKvJ_blog.html

    What are you going to do about it? I can see that some of you will do absolutely nothing, in fact you'll encourage the invasion.

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