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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho Villa View Post
    The reason Paul doesn't have a chance is because the American people don't agree with his policies.

    Paul is a free-marketer. If you think conservatives are pro-free market, I have a bridge i Brooklyn to sell you. Conservatives are for marginally less government involvement in the economy as compared to liberals, but they are nowhere near free market. Look at Perry's long list of "public-private partnerships" - thats fascism, not capitalism.
    Conservatives believe in free markets. Republicans who call themselves conserative are what you're describing here, IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Ron Paul, who's constantly whining about getting snubbed by the media, just turned down an appearance on O'Reilly's show because, he said, "O'Reilly isn't much of a journalist."
    He isn't a journalist. Not even close. I won't sit here and say that I can name one on any channel that gets beamed into your cable box, but I can say with confidence that O'Reilly is not a journalist.

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    You're right, O'Reilly isn't a journalist but he is the media and if Ron Paul wants to get his domestic message out he should have taken the opportunity when it was presented to him.

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    He's got an MA in Broadcast Journalism and has spent his entire career as a bona fide journalist. He's won several Emmys (one while he worked as a reporter in Denver) and other awards for investigative journalism.

    He may be more of a commentator now, but to say he's not a journalist is way off the mark.

    Again...I'm no fan of O'Reilly, but fair is fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    He's got an MA in Broadcast Journalism and has spent his entire career as a bona fide journalist. He's won several Emmys (one while he worked as a reporter in Denver) and other awards for investigative journalism.

    He may be more of a commentator now, but to say he's not a journalist is way off the mark.

    Again...I'm no fan of O'Reilly, but fair is fair.
    I did not know that. Thank you.

    I am no fan either but I like the record to be straight.

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    I just looked at O'Reilly's Wiki page. Holy crap! The guy's done a lot.
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    I just looked too...the things I learn.

    Ron Paul should have gone on O'Reilly's show but Ron Paul knows that he will NEVER be any more than what he is now. Plus Ron avoided getting grilled on his 'ahem' foreign policy.

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    Ask any conservative pundit (I won't say 'intellectual' because 'conservative intellectual' is an oxymoron) if they support:

    FDA
    Social Security
    Medicare
    Medicaid
    Minimum wage laws
    Environmental regulations on industry
    "Faith-based initiatives"

    None of these things are capitalist in nature. It is true that conservatives are for a different set of regulations than liberals (I won't even say less, because I'm not convinced the difference is really all that huge.) Romney, a front runner in the GOP primaries, has no real beef with socialized medicine other than it makes him unpopular; Perry is all about the "public-private partnerships," another non-capitalist institution, one picked up from Fascist Italy (but don't tell anyone that.)

    Conservatives are a big joke being played on the American people, as is the Tea Party. Anyone can talk a good game but there is no principle other than "lets tone the regulations down...a little bit" that conservatives can point to. They aren't pro-capitalists and they aren't (quite) socialists. Which is why every time they get elected into office they compromise and we end up with less liberty than when they started, worse budgets than when they started and overall just in a shittier place than when they started.

    There's no truly free-market conservative out there, minus (to an extent) Ron Paul...and the American people have clearly voiced that they are not interested in free markets.

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    Not only is your rant factually incorrect, it kinda sounds like something you'd hear in a beatnik-type, smoke filled coffee house on some side-street in NYC.

    You're not only contradicting yourself but it seems you have a lot to learn about conservatism and liberalism (as they're both commonly used today).

    If you don't think there's a huge difference in liberal and conservative ideology, I won't even take the time to really respond.
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    It seems to me that he is speaking about those running as conservatives, since he used the word 'pundit', and the main stream person that watches Bill O'Riley and thinks that he is a conservative.
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