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    No...I wasn't sure what you meant. I'm thinking you don't really believe Newt has a realistic shot at the nomination...neither do I. But, stranger things have happened and it is still too early to know what might happen over the next several months.
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    Exactly-look what happened last election-Oblunder pretty much crawled from relative obscurity.

    I am not a real fan of Newt but he knocked it out of the park. Good to see.

    I am glad somebody that some folks will listen to finally called out the bias in the media. Long overdue.
    Curious to see how the media takes a lashing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    Exactly-look what happened last election-Oblunder pretty much crawled from relative obscurity.
    I wouldn't say relative obscurity- there was plenty of stuff about Obeyme, the only problem was by the time he beat out Clinton, Palin came on the scene and the media spent all their time trying to destroy her and didn't focus on Obama and his ulterior motives and ludicrous agenda from years before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    ...and didn't focus on Obama and his ulterior motives and ludicrous agenda from years before.
    But why would the MSM want to do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I just watched the last half of the debate on MSNBC. I need to try to find the entire thing online somewhere so I can see it all.

    At any rate, MSNBC is doing a debate analysis. The panel includes:
    • Rachel Maddow
    • Al Sharpton
    • Chris Matthews
    • Ed Schulz
    With a combined IQ of about 17, it's hard to take any of them seriously.
    Those 4 can't even spell IQ.

    And Newt really has a way with answers.

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    Just read something pretty funny- it said "Why watch Obama when you can watch NFL pre-game? NBC is airing the Obama speech, however the NFL Pre-Game show is being aired on 5 different cable networks: SyFy, USA, Versus, G4 and the NFL Network."

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    GOP is very disappointing. As usual, they talk a good game, but I have 0 confidence in anyone's ability to follow through, except Ron Paul, who will be a mixed bag at best.

    - All talk about free markets, no one will actually support free markets
    - All talk about defending America, but no one repudiates the way the Iraq & Afghan wars have been fought and promise to change our foreign policy to ensure our victory vs empowering our enemies

    Ron Paul:

    - Is serious about free markets
    - Blames America for the world's problems

    I would actually rate Ron Paul's foreign policy as slightly less disastrous than the typical conservative approach, because Ron Paul at least won't be making us any weaker, nor sending hundreds of billions of $ in bribes to our enemies, as we have in Afghanistan and Iraq. Not to mention the near-20k coalition casualties, mostly done so that our future enemies will have better infrastructure with which to use to better attack us.

    I really hate his foreign policy but until someone else actually talks sense about the WoT I will advocate disengagement vs counterproductive offensives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho Villa View Post
    I would actually rate Ron Paul's foreign policy as slightly less disastrous than the typical conservative approach, because Ron Paul at least won't be making us any weaker...

    I really hate his foreign policy but until someone else actually talks sense about the WoT I will advocate disengagement vs counterproductive offensives.
    Dude...WTF? How many times can you possibly contradict yourself in one post?

    Ron Paul's foreign policy approach has been tried before and has pretty much resulted in world wars both times. How will an isolationist foreign policy make us safer?

    I am not tracking on what you're saying at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho Villa View Post
    GOP is very disappointing. As usual, they talk a good game, but I have 0 confidence in anyone's ability to follow through, except Ron Paul, who will be a mixed bag at best.

    - All talk about free markets, no one will actually support free markets
    - All talk about defending America, but no one repudiates the way the Iraq & Afghan wars have been fought and promise to change our foreign policy to ensure our victory vs empowering our enemies

    Ron Paul:

    - Is serious about free markets
    - Blames America for the world's problems

    I would actually rate Ron Paul's foreign policy as slightly less disastrous than the typical conservative approach, because Ron Paul at least won't be making us any weaker, nor sending hundreds of billions of $ in bribes to our enemies, as we have in Afghanistan and Iraq. Not to mention the near-20k coalition casualties, mostly done so that our future enemies will have better infrastructure with which to use to better attack us.

    I really hate his foreign policy but until someone else actually talks sense about the WoT I will advocate disengagement vs counterproductive offensives.
    and to be honest, Obamao has more than doubled our hostile involvement on the international scene, not saying one is better or worse than the other, but that but that one is no better than the other.

    I Don't believe bad foreign policies have a party affiliation, really.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Dude...WTF? How many times can you possibly contradict yourself in one post?

    Ron Paul's foreign policy approach has been tried before and has pretty much resulted in world wars both times. How will an isolationist foreign policy make us safer?

    I am not tracking on what you're saying at all.
    Disengagement as a foreign policy is a bad idea, especially when there are objective threats out there like Iran/Saudi arabia. So I'm not a fan of Ron Paul's foreign policy.

    Its still better than Republitard "herp derp lets go in there and spend billions of dollars winning 'hearts and minds' and allowing two countries to vote themselves as Islamic Republics with Islam as the Highest Law of the Land and say 'democracy is democracy!'"

    Disengagement does no good, but Republican warmaking strategies so far have done very little harm to the enemy and done them much good, including transferring two regimes from international pariahs to internationally recognized, acclaimed and supported Islamic "Republics" that recognize no law above the Koran.

    They're already murdering people in Afghanistan for converting from Islam, and we aren't even gone. All we're doing is providing a training ground, billions of bucks and tons of expertise / infrastructure for a murderous enemy who will turn on us the second we are gone.

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