The "Jobs" plan

[Byte Stryke]

We don't spend trillions on foreign aid. Where did you get those numbers?

We borrow more in one month than we send in foreign aid each year.

I gave you a realistic proposal. We just have to wait until the next election cycle to put like-minded people in office and throw out the tards there now.

you are absolutely correct, we give away 25 Billion per year
That is right about 300 Billion since 2000

keep in mind that does not include disaster relieve, welfare projects, humanitarian projects, U.N. Relief or military aid.

its not in the trillions... that was an exaggeration... got me.

but its far more than I would like.

now, Back to the economic tax/money/wage thing...

So if we are so against minimum wage and for free trade, why does everyone bitch about Wal-Mart?

Maybe I just do not understand.

[yosemite]

you cannot buy jobs, something has to be sold to create a job, you cannot increase sales by taxation, of the product, the consumer,the worker, or the manufacturer! without sale of a product, there is no reason to manufacture, sell, service, and without these no job Creation, stimulation Vote Barry out!

[Sharpienads]

So if we are so against minimum wage and for free trade, why does everyone bitch about Wal-Mart?

Maybe I just do not understand.

Because Walmart is "evil" and "greedy". And it's a corporation, and it's corporates do corporationy things.

[tmleadr03]

you are absolutely correct, we give away 25 Billion per year
That is right about 300 Billion since 2000

keep in mind that does not include disaster relieve, welfare projects, humanitarian projects, U.N. Relief or military aid.

its not in the trillions... that was an exaggeration... got me.

but its far more than I would like.

now, Back to the economic tax/money/wage thing...

So if we are so against minimum wage and for free trade, why does everyone bitch about Wal-Mart?

Maybe I just do not understand.

Uh... what? You are the first person to mention Wally world in this thread. I have not seen it mentioned on this board before. Are you just making things up now?

[Bailey Guns]

Actually, "I hate Walmart" threads pop up now and then. It's pretty common. First I recall about it in this thread, though.

[Byte Stryke]

I Never said any specific person said it or that it was thread specific...

Sorry Tmleader, no points this round

[streetglideok]

I couldnt bring myself to read thru 11 pages on this thread. Since some think I am in love with Obama and give idiotic statements, then I dont expect many to read what I say. So, I am going to say what I think anyways, and who really cares? lol

This country is in a mess for more reasons then you can count. It started a generation ago when we started to shift from a manufacturing economy, that produced goods, to a service, or taco bell economy. When that happened, decent paying jobs starting going to the wayside, and we started down this road. People started buying at walmart and other chain stores. We then joined NAFTA, and sent jobs to mexico, and followed with the asian equal to it, and opened the door to china. People were silly enough to think china would buy our stuff, and improve jobs here. A trip to MAO-mart, err walmart, will show you otherwise. Now we have a huge portion of the country on food stamps, working for walmart, for low wages, and cant buy anything decent, so we can no longer sustain the economy as is. This has been made worse by a poor education system, from first grade to grad school. No one out of high school it seems has a firm grasp of our economy, how it works, and what helps and kills it. No one is interested in history, to see what our ancestors screwed up, so we dont repeat the same mistakes. We have college teachers trying to teach socialism to their students, and these new business management/accounting models. We have reached a point, that it will take years to correct, and will take a nationwide effort to fix. It will span several presidents before we will see solid results. And unlike the presidents we have seen for some time, we need intelligent presidents who believe in this country, and love this country.

The only way things will change here, is everyone needs to change their mindset. Get rid of this, "its somebody elses fault" thought process. We need to stop sending money to other countries, via means of support, oil and goods. We need to shoot for being a goods export country again. Make others send us their moldy money. Unions are going to have to get over themselves, and cut their wages, and their perks alot, so we can compete. We need to get out of trade agreements with asia, and mexico. If need be, cut the corp. tax rate. Start requiring 4 years of econ to graduate high school, and a diploma to get a drivers license. Close the southern borders. Start downsizing the federal government. The list goes on and on. People's attitude need to change. Theres too much of the what are you going to do for me, and dont you dare think Im doing something for you without a cut for me mentality. That all needs to change. Scoff if you like, but a country of people with that craptastic attitude is what helped bring us to our knees. Just because you own a gun, and believe in the second amendment doesnt make you a great person, or the opposite of Obama.

[Byte Stryke]

I couldnt bring myself to read thru 11 pages on this thread. Since some think I am in love with Obama and give idiotic statements, then I dont expect many to read what I say. So, I am going to say what I think anyways, and who really cares? lol

This country is in a mess for more reasons then you can count. It started a generation ago when we started to shift from a manufacturing economy, that produced goods, to a service, or taco bell economy. When that happened, decent paying jobs starting going to the wayside, and we started down this road. People started buying at walmart and other chain stores. We then joined NAFTA, and sent jobs to mexico, and followed with the asian equal to it, and opened the door to china. People were silly enough to think china would buy our stuff, and improve jobs here. A trip to MAO-mart, err walmart, will show you otherwise. Now we have a huge portion of the country on food stamps, working for walmart, for low wages, and cant buy anything decent, so we can no longer sustain the economy as is. This has been made worse by a poor education system, from first grade to grad school. No one out of high school it seems has a firm grasp of our economy, how it works, and what helps and kills it. No one is interested in history, to see what our ancestors screwed up, so we dont repeat the same mistakes. We have college teachers trying to teach socialism to their students, and these new business management/accounting models. We have reached a point, that it will take years to correct, and will take a nationwide effort to fix. It will span several presidents before we will see solid results. And unlike the presidents we have seen for some time, we need intelligent presidents who believe in this country, and love this country.

The only way things will change here, is everyone needs to change their mindset. Get rid of this, "its somebody elses fault" thought process. We need to stop sending money to other countries, via means of support, oil and goods. We need to shoot for being a goods export country again. Make others send us their moldy money. Unions are going to have to get over themselves, and cut their wages, and their perks alot, so we can compete. We need to get out of trade agreements with asia, and mexico. If need be, cut the corp. tax rate. Start requiring 4 years of econ to graduate high school, and a diploma to get a drivers license. Close the southern borders. Start downsizing the federal government. The list goes on and on. People's attitude need to change. Theres too much of the what are you going to do for me, and dont you dare think Im doing something for you without a cut for me mentality. That all needs to change. Scoff if you like, but a country of people with that craptastic attitude is what helped bring us to our knees. Just because you own a gun, and believe in the second amendment doesnt make you a great person, or the opposite of Obama.

I just wish I could believe this was possible.

[streetglideok]

Me too, me too

[Mobat555]

I couldnt bring myself to read thru 11 pages on this thread. Since some think I am in love with Obama and give idiotic statements, then I dont expect many to read what I say. So, I am going to say what I think anyways, and who really cares? lol

This country is in a mess for more reasons then you can count. It started a generation ago when we started to shift from a manufacturing economy, that produced goods, to a service, or taco bell economy. When that happened, decent paying jobs starting going to the wayside, and we started down this road. People started buying at walmart and other chain stores. We then joined NAFTA, and sent jobs to mexico, and followed with the asian equal to it, and opened the door to china. People were silly enough to think china would buy our stuff, and improve jobs here. A trip to MAO-mart, err walmart, will show you otherwise. Now we have a huge portion of the country on food stamps, working for walmart, for low wages, and cant buy anything decent, so we can no longer sustain the economy as is. This has been made worse by a poor education system, from first grade to grad school. No one out of high school it seems has a firm grasp of our economy, how it works, and what helps and kills it. No one is interested in history, to see what our ancestors screwed up, so we dont repeat the same mistakes. We have college teachers trying to teach socialism to their students, and these new business management/accounting models. We have reached a point, that it will take years to correct, and will take a nationwide effort to fix. It will span several presidents before we will see solid results. And unlike the presidents we have seen for some time, we need intelligent presidents who believe in this country, and love this country.

The only way things will change here, is everyone needs to change their mindset. Get rid of this, "its somebody elses fault" thought process. We need to stop sending money to other countries, via means of support, oil and goods. We need to shoot for being a goods export country again. Make others send us their moldy money. Unions are going to have to get over themselves, and cut their wages, and their perks alot, so we can compete. We need to get out of trade agreements with asia, and mexico. If need be, cut the corp. tax rate. Start requiring 4 years of econ to graduate high school, and a diploma to get a drivers license. Close the southern borders. Start downsizing the federal government. The list goes on and on. People's attitude need to change. Theres too much of the what are you going to do for me, and dont you dare think Im doing something for you without a cut for me mentality. That all needs to change. Scoff if you like, but a country of people with that craptastic attitude is what helped bring us to our knees. Just because you own a gun, and believe in the second amendment doesnt make you a great person, or the opposite of Obama.