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    If you ignore the ticket, the fine will double, collection costs and interest will be added, and they will get a judgement to garnish your wages or bank account. If that is, indeed, a photo of your wife's car with her face and the tag clearly visible -- and it was mailed to the correct address -- they can do this.

    If she was not in that area on that day, or insists she was not speeding, ahe can take a day off from work to hang out with the drunks and druggies for a while so she can have her say in court. She does not need an attorney for this. If she shows up in court to dispute the ticket and it was not in a school zone, 50/50 chance it will be dismissed.

    Bottom line: either pay it or fight it, but DO NOT ignore it thinking it will go away.

    Oh, service through the mail is standard for Denver government agencies. A creditor or private party to a lawsuit needs to have it personally served with a notarized return of service filed, but the DA and traffic control can mail you a subpoena if they want . . . and if you fail to appear they WILL issue a bench warrant for contempt of court . . . even if it was mailed to the wrong address.

    Denver does lots of illegal stuff on a fairly regular basis. That is just they way they do things here. It is effective, expedient, and they decide what rules need to be enforced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    If you ignore the ticket, the fine will double, collection costs and interest will be added, and they will get a judgement to garnish your wages or bank account. If that is, indeed, a photo of your wife's car with her face and the tag clearly visible -- and it was mailed to the correct address -- they can do this.

    WRONG WRONG WRONG

    NO THEY CAN'T.

    If they serve it personally, then it's a real judgement, but since that isn't going to happen (because it's a money loser, and it's all about the money).
    Until then, you are stupid to pay it. It's like a fine for stupidity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    Denver does lots of illegal stuff on a fairly regular basis.
    I personally see no reason to follow illegal laws. YMMV.


    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    If you ignore the ticket, the fine will double, collection costs and interest will be added, and they will get a judgement to garnish your wages or bank account.

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    Bottom line: either pay it or fight it, but DO NOT ignore it thinking it will go away.
    Oh really now? ......

    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    I may have been mailed one of these years ago, and may have summarily ignored it. I have been pulled over a number of times since they hypothetically sent me the stupid ticket, and no officer has made any mention. I have also renewed my driver's license since then.
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTRourke View Post
    I've thrown away multiple ones over the past 10+ years. still standing. new driver's license, CCw, whole bit, nobody cares, it's just revenue generation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Colorado law requires personal service. (This is coming from a man with 15 years as a LEO)
    Quote Originally Posted by Squeeze View Post
    And never paid a single one. All three went over the 90-day mark and nobody "breech, bang & cleared" my house to get me to pay it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    If you ignore the ticket, the fine will double, collection costs and interest will be added, and they will get a judgement to garnish your wages or bank account.

    Oh, service through the mail is standard for Denver government agencies. A creditor or private party to a lawsuit needs to have it personally served with a notarized return of service filed, but the DA and traffic control can mail you a subpoena if they want . . . and if you fail to appear they WILL issue a bench warrant for contempt of court . . . even if it was mailed to the wrong address.

    Denver does lots of illegal stuff on a fairly regular basis. That is just they way they do things here. It is effective, expedient, and they decide what rules need to be enforced.
    Any backing to this or is it just a guess? After reading Colorado law regarding automatic radar cameras it is my understanding that they can't do most of this. If you don't pay the original notice then they can send someone to serve you. All they can do at that point is add a fee for the cost of sending someone to your house... No interest, no other fees. Potentially an extra $59. They can't issue a bench warrant, boot your car, revoke your license...they can't even report the ticket to the state. Furthermore, as far as I can tell, Denver is not following state law regarding the use of automatic radar cameras so I can't imagine they will want to bring anyone to court and have that come to light...

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    Clint45, what you said is what they do for parking tickets.

    Streetglideok, you have some serious backwards thinking comrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Any backing to this or is it just a guess? After reading Colorado law regarding automatic radar cameras it is my understanding that they can't do most of this. If you don't pay the original notice then they can send someone to serve you. All they can do at that point is add a fee for the cost of sending someone to your house... No interest, no other fees. Potentially an extra $59. They can't issue a bench warrant, boot your car, revoke your license...they can't even report the ticket to the state. Furthermore, as far as I can tell, Denver is not following state law regarding the use of automatic radar cameras so I can't imagine they will want to bring anyone to court and have that come to light...

    I got one of those tickets last year. It said that the fine would double after 30 days and collection costs would be added. Right Of Way Enforcement can boot you over this. They don't even know why they are booting or towing vehicles half the time -- they drive very slowly down every street, scanning EVERY license plate with their laser thingy, and if it pings they stop and do whatever the computer tells them to do. If you've ignored several of these tickets, I'd be careful parking on public roads in Denver, especially Downtown and in Cap Hill. No "proof" for you, but that is just how Denver does things. Had my car towed over an "investigative hold" because some yuppie bitch from out of state said I scratched the paint on her car in a parking lot. No-one could tell me why my car was towed for nearly a week, and it cost me over $400 to get it out of impound.

    Last year I had a Judge call me on my cell to ask me where I was -- didn't even identify herself as a Judge or clarify what the call was about. Asked me why I wasn't in court. I thought it was one of the attorneys at the firm I was working for until she said that she was issuing a bench warrant for my arrest and hung up. I drove home, googled her number, and found out who it was. Called the clerk and was told that I'd been subpoenaed to appear for a traffic violation. I never was served a subpoena. They said it was mailed to me, but I never got it. Turned out the ADA sent it as a stamped letter -- not registered, not certified, not even delivery confirmation -- and it went to my old address. My attorney said they do that all the time. So yeah, they do that here. It probably is illegal, but Denver has never cared about that.

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    Denver said they would do all that stuff to me over the parking ticket I didn't pay. I heard on here that they could make it so you couldn't buy a gun unless you paid, so I ponied up the over 2x the original amount. I asked if I could settle, and all that stuff, but they wouldn't do it. The first guy I talked to about it was a total fucking ass clown. I should have spoken to his manager. Fucking idiot.

    They never did end up doing any of that stuff though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Denver said they would do all that stuff to me over the parking ticket I didn't pay. I heard on here that they could make it so you couldn't buy a gun unless you paid, so I ponied up the over 2x the original amount. I asked if I could settle, and all that stuff, but they wouldn't do it. The first guy I talked to about it was a total fucking ass clown. I should have spoken to his manager. Fucking idiot.

    They never did end up doing any of that stuff though.
    I do not know, for certain, what Denver does to drivers who do ignore the traffic camera tickets, but given how they handle other minor offenses I doubt very much if they'll simply drop it.

    I do know for a fact that if your vehicle is WRONGFULLY impounded they never waive or refund impound fees . . . and if you don't bail your car out of impound they sell it at auction. Denver is notorious nationwide for that. Notorious for the "Denver boot" as well.

    If you want to risk ignoring a Denver photo ticket thinking nothing is gonna happen to you, go right ahead and tell us how that works out. I got mine a month after the alleged offense and had no recollection of driving in that area on that day, but it was my face and tag number in the photo so I just paid it. I think it was something like $80.

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    or you can just listen to your own inner fears, disregarding the constitution and state laws, giving in to the illegal scare tactics of the libtard party of Denver.

    Proof? naah
    proper serve of citation? pffft...


    Just give denver all of you money AND your rights.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post

    If you want to risk ignoring a Denver photo ticket thinking nothing is gonna happen to you, go right ahead and tell us how that works out.
    Any number of people on this thread have done exactly that. So far, no horror stories.
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