Quote Originally Posted by cofi View Post
ok today i finally got a chance to try a 70 yard shot with my carry weapon(glock 30sf) and my carry loadout (24 rounds) against a man size steel target......
8 rounds in the chest
2 bounced up into legs off the ground
14 misses...........
thats 14 people that coulda been shot since that guys backstop was the restaurant......

that was me shooting satnding still with a target that was standing still not shooting at me i shoot way more then the average ccw holder since i do have a range in my backyard
And if you shot more at long ranges, you'd be better at it. That's the entire... and only... purpose of this thread. Not shooting at long range, but identifying where you need work and then working on it.

Quote Originally Posted by sometimesright View Post
That being said (importance of training) it is my humble opinion that I have to know my limitations. Trying to operate outside those limitations may have disastrous consequences for me and others.
The goal is not to simply know your limitations, but to recognize those limitations so that you can improve them. Discover the areas you might be lacking in and then practice those skills until you become good at them.

The point of this thread was pretty much entirely missed... oh well.