Quote Originally Posted by mcantar18c View Post
As I said, I can shoot MOH (Minute of Hajji: not a perfect grouping but accurate enough for consistent hits on a man sized target) all day long at 100m with my carry gun.
This thinking gets you shot.

MOH is enough to put one his gut/leg/chest? I have seen all of the locations take a pistol round (once 3 in the chest/gut), and the guy walk away, sometimes run. (Hell, just the other day worked with a person who got shot in the FACE and walked home!) NOT once have I seen a pistol round put a dude down from a single round in ANY of these spots except the ankle, he was crying, alot, and his ankle was a mess. The bullet or bone game was fun with that guy. If you plan to take a shot from that far against a well armed opponent, you need to get your groups smaller than than a pistol (6-8 MOA typically) can go.

You would need a clean DRT shot. The dude has an AK and you just made yourself target #1 = GAME OVER. This wasn't IDPA, hits barely count, you need to put the dude down right now, no easy feat with any firearm, much less a pistol. Worth note- I have seen no reason to trust pistols to get the job done, they are mean in the movies, a 12 gauge however, that's another story.