Quote Originally Posted by mcantar18c View Post
The guy in the IHOP shooting wasn't targeting anyone specifically, he was going for body count (as is the norm for these "active shooter" scenarios). If he had a select fire weapon, why wouldn't he just spray at the folks in IHOP? As has been pointed out by other folks here, these guys get most of their firearms experience from video games, its not like he's going to put a short burst into target A and then repeat with target B when he can go full auto.
So no, I wasn't joking.
A full auto weapon isn't a fire hose and there's always more air than meat. Someone who "just sprays at folks" is much more likely to have a lower body count than a higher.


Get the job done of stopping the threat. IMO if a carry gun isn't capable of effectively stopping a threat behind cover (shooting through a car door and then into the attacker, for example), then it isn't suitable to carry. No, a 9mm isn't too small for this... a .25ACP is.
We went through this in the 9mm vs. 45 thread but I'll say it again here. Pistols suck as fight stoppers. Nothing that is man portable can stop a threat guaranteed.

Shooting a threat behind cover is a job for a rifle and a good barrier blind projectile.

For that matter, shooting a threat at 65M is a job for a rifle too.

Armchair quarterbacking a fight is gay.