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[Irving]

Mcantar, you should really watch the Ohio video before you keep talking about it.

Here is the only version I can find. They cut out the fight. I saw the original on here.



As to the lady, if the guy is OUTSIDE, then she isn't in danger from him. Just because he's pounding on the door, doesn't mean he is close to getting in.

Now, in the interest of being fair, I've delivered to some places that have a door so thin, that a single kick would take the whole door down. Perhaps she had one of those shower grade doors and it was only seconds before he was through.

[mcantar18c]

Mcantar, you should really watch the Ohio video before you keep talking about it.

Here is the only version I can find. They cut out the fight. I saw the original on here.


As to the lady, if the guy is OUTSIDE, then she isn't in danger from him. Just because he's pounding on the door, doesn't mean he is close to getting in.

Now, in the interest of being fair, I've delivered to some places that have a door so thin, that a single kick would take the whole door down. Perhaps she had one of those shower grade doors and it was only seconds before he was through.

I've seen the video of the Ohio incident. Hard to see what goes on with the roof support in the way, but that quote and link I posted was from the guy involved, and the article I read about it back when it happened had a witness account that also said they were trying to pull him out of the car.

I listened to the recording of the 911 call made by the lady. Armed man outside the glass door, trying to break in, was about to break down the door with a patio chair she had outside when she pulled the trigger. Early on in the conversation the lady says something along the lines of "Ma'am, I don't want to shoot this man, dear God I do not want to shoot him, but I will if I have to." 911 operator responds with "You are within your rights to shoot him if you fear he will get in." Cops were already on the way but of course didn't get there in time.

[BigMat]

Not to beat a dead horse but I've been out of town-

...Gabe Suarez/Warrior Talk...

Might be worth your watching - His own words.

he may know TOO much about active shooters with an AK and is obviously too quick to go to guns.

Note- Firearms instructor, who planned on murdering a lot of trained and armed men (that he was already defrauding, plead guilty to it) with pistols. HE took an AK and planned on winning, consider the tactics of your teacher.


Also, CCW guy was under fire from the shooter, no suprise shot, and the situation is impossible to legally duplicate.

[cofi]

Mcantar, you should really watch the Ohio video before you keep talking about it.

Here is the only version I can find. They cut out the fight. I saw the original on here.



As to the lady, if the guy is OUTSIDE, then she isn't in danger from him. Just because he's pounding on the door, doesn't mean he is close to getting in.

Now, in the interest of being fair, I've delivered to some places that have a door so thin, that a single kick would take the whole door down. Perhaps she had one of those shower grade doors and it was only seconds before he was through.

in that video i would think that person could have just put the car into drive and get away