Al Sadr gets it.

[Elhuero]

one of the jihad's primary demand is the exit of the U.S. from the middle east.


therefore, I say we dig in and never leave.

Never.

[KevDen2005]

one of the jihad's primary demand is the exit of the U.S. from the middle east.


therefore, I say we dig in and never leave.

Never.

I kind of like this....I don't like the idea of giving into demands of terrorists...

[brokenscout]

You need a guy like that to run a Country like that. His sons needed to be killed,but Saddam should have stayed. Need to pull out and leave a Nuke on a timer.

[mopar]

This is probably over simplifing but, haven't these middle eastern countries been fighting each other for centuries ? What is the U.S. going do to stop this ? Aren't we basically protecting big oil interests? I don't have any answers but, I don't think fighting wars with them is going to help the situation. Maybe use covert operations to take out some of the leaders.

Opinons ?

[brokenscout]

This is probably over simplifing but, haven't these middle eastern countries been fighting each other for centuries ? What is the U.S. going do to stop this ? Aren't we basically protecting big oil interests? I don't have any answers but, I don't think fighting wars with them is going to help the situation. Maybe use covert operations to take out some of the leaders.

Opinons ?

It seems like every time we get rid of one guy, another guy twice as bad pops up. Let Israel deal with them

[sniper7]

a few planes dropping presents on the entire country could solve ALL their problems as well as ours.

[Byte Stryke]

Until this country re-adopts the previous policies of waging war in which the entire country was an enemy, we will continue to struggle with our fights.

I am all for diplomacy and negotiation.

Diplomacy and negotiation are a limp cock if the enemy knows you have no fight.



Carpet Bomb the enemy without apology, make the cost of transgression against this country so high that the enemy will not even consider it.

Stanley: War? Who are we at war with?
Gabriel: Anyone who impinges on America's freedom. Terrorist states, Stanley. Someone must bring their war to them. They bomb a church, we bomb ten. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans.

This.

[mcantar18c]

This is probably over simplifing but, haven't these middle eastern countries been fighting each other for centuries ? What is the U.S. going do to stop this ? Aren't we basically protecting big oil interests? I don't have any answers but, I don't think fighting wars with them is going to help the situation. Maybe use covert operations to take out some of the leaders.

Opinons ?

People never seem to understand the ultimate reason for "nation building" (what we're trying to do in Iraq) and the importance of sticking around and building a democracy instead of leaving a power vacuum.
As a general rule, democracies do not go to war with each other.
This means regional stability and easier trading of resources (yes, oil is probably a part of things, but really... if we aren't willing to go to war over oil, what are we willing to fight for?), etc.

Now, whether or not we will succeed in creating a stable democracy that will hold when we eventually leave is a whole different story. Most of the shitbags over there have no interest in having their country become a democracy. And whether we could succeed or not over there, we won't be sticking around long enough to get the job done anyway... the sheep no longer understand why it is we go to war, why we're in the wars were in, and that we need to support the war effort... though I'm not sure they ever did to begin with.