Quote Originally Posted by DD977GM2 View Post
I agree 100% with you, there are exceptions to the rule in some cases, I personally know 2 cases.

My Brother in law, good man, had a job right out of the gate and has steadily gone up the ladder there, is a Mason and is a good family man and husband.

One of my good buddies, he is a Production Manager for a stone veneer company and once he got out, he has worked his ass of and is a productive member of society and can depend on him for just about anything.

I used to work for the stone veneer company, they are right by a half way house and they pull a lot of labor from them since its walking distance for them I gave 5 guys a shot at being my forklift mechanic or mechanics helper ( I was stupidvisor for maintenance for a year) and I ended up firing all 5 within the first month and had to depend on my buddy mentioned above to help me on weekend with repairs when the plant was shut down. He was the batch maker at the time and I taught him a shitload and used it to move up in the company.
Oh sure there's exceptions to the rule, I know a few myself. But on the whole, the entire system is out of whack.

Anyway, don't mean to derail the thread. I just can't stand it when people refer to our prison system as "rehabilitative."