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    http://www.i4at.org/lib2/hmnwaste.htm

    If this is going to be a fallback position or multiple weekends, it might be worth just making an outhouse. Dig deep at a permanent placement. Sawdust/wood chips are basically cellulose and will compost the feces over time (insert a lot of chemistry here). Lye or lime will control the smell (insert a lot of chemistry here) and keep the bugs to a minimum. I prefer lye as it can be made from fire ash. Fire ash will work too, so you can empty the potbelly into the crapper for composting and to make sure the pH level of nitrogen doesn't too bad (ammonia is your problem here, the lye or ash will help to buffer this out and stop it smelling really bad).

    Keep something to clear out the underside of the seat in the outhouse. They will collect spiders, and spider bites were very common from this back in the day. They also used to keep a bucket of corn cobs in there back in the day, no paper... Taking old phone books up there when you visit and leaving them is a good idea too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_A_Llama View Post
    A plastic bucket with a side bucket of sawdust works pretty damn well - you can achieve really decent composting action, with that Carbon/Nitrogen ratio. Urine is especially potent in the nitrogen department. Very little smell.

    Haybales work well for a urinal. Very little smell, again, from the composting action.
    Good idea here. If nothing else, could make do until a more permanent solution...

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    Are concrete vaults allowed in this area?
    Probably allowed, don't really know, but the ground is mostly rock, and I can't get heavy equipment there without paying a fortune...

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    When I saw the $1000 price tags for the other options you were considering, I just about shit myself
    You're not kidding...

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    Cut a metal 55 gallon drug in half and add about 5 gallons of diesel. On the up side if you want to keep you land private that will certainly keep prying eyes away.
    Might even keep me away.

    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I'm interesting in how difficult and how much a plot of land like that is.

    My family has a cabin near Winter Park and it was awesome growing up. Now it is like any other neighborhood with houses right on top of each other. Wouldn't be so bad, but our plot is really small.
    My claim is small (5 acres), but it's surrounded by BLM, so it feels big. There are folks not too far away, but it feels remote, and you never see anyone. There's only about 1/4 mile of old mine road that is tough to drive, and it keeps the morons out. Had to haul in generator, etc for construction, but not bad. You can find bare mining claims like this for 35-55K probably. If you're looking, hit me up, and I can get you pointed to some resources.

    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    http://www.i4at.org/lib2/hmnwaste.htm

    If this is going to be a fallback position or multiple weekends, it might be worth just making an outhouse. Dig deep at a permanent placement. Sawdust/wood chips are basically cellulose and will compost the feces over time (insert a lot of chemistry here). Lye or lime will control the smell (insert a lot of chemistry here) and keep the bugs to a minimum. I prefer lye as it can be made from fire ash. Fire ash will work too, so you can empty the potbelly into the crapper for composting and to make sure the pH level of nitrogen doesn't too bad (ammonia is your problem here, the lye or ash will help to buffer this out and stop it smelling really bad).

    Keep something to clear out the underside of the seat in the outhouse. They will collect spiders, and spider bites were very common from this back in the day. They also used to keep a bucket of corn cobs in there back in the day, no paper... Taking old phone books up there when you visit and leaving them is a good idea too.
    Digging here will be a problem, and probably the limiting factor for this type of setup. You really know your sh*t though!

    Thanks for all the input, guys. More ideas, keep 'em coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentonite View Post
    How about now?

    Here's looking a bit more south - toward Mt. Evans

    works perfect and looks awesome! great view!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    works perfect and looks awesome! great view!
    Thanks. I keep meaning to put a gong on that hillside (it's across a valley)...

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    Oh, and as an addendum to the bucket suggestion from earlier:

    http://www.amazon.com/Emergency-Toil...dp/B004KLY5CE/
    9mm - because they don't make a 9.1mm

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    Nice! I wish I'd had one of those when I was remodeling the bathroom. Those narrow bucket rims hurt.

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    That's not too bad on price. I think I'll make that one of my life goals. Thanks for the inspiration. Our family cabin is on like an 1/8th or a 1/16th of an acre. VERY small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentonite View Post
    Thanks. I keep meaning to put a gong on that hillside (it's across a valley)...
    So when is the CO-AR15.com Gong shooting party there?

    If its when I am in town, I can bring prob 1 other person and load the bed of my truck up with plenty of gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentonite View Post
    Nice! I wish I'd had one of those when I was remodeling the bathroom. Those narrow bucket rims hurt.
    What we did for building my adopted boys Grandfather's property, took the frame of those nylon lawn chairs and mounted a regular toilet seat on it then put FRB board around so no splash on your legs.

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