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    Quote Originally Posted by MPfiveengineer
    Why would you repeat the post directly above yours without adding to it?
    I swear that wasn't there...

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    This must be a joke I never seen this coming. :roll:

    Told ya Ken now if they grandfather the ones already shipped which is what I suspect will happen your $1200 atkins just trippled in price. [wink]

    Once again BATFE flip flops more than a fish out of water. :evil:
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    That's just wrong.Hope it works out for the best for you.

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    That sucks! Hopefully the batfe ends up with egg on their face for this.

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    Now will this be a way for them to make all semi auto weapons illegal since it is possible to bump fire them?

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    Pending litigation outcomes to the contrary, the ATF will treat the AA stocks the same as they did the improperly demilled Interordinance parts kits.

    Neither the AA stock or the parts kits have a serial number, both have been declared to be MGs under a technical interpretation of the law, both have had conflicting FTB determinations made where the line has been moved all over the place. The FTB is out of control and is clearly politicized now that Gonzales took over for Ashcroft as the AG.

    In the case of the improperly demilled parts kits, agents fanned out and confiscated the "offending" receivers. You can expect a letter or worse, a knock on the door. If you say "sorry, sold it to a guy at the range", expect to be raided because that is what the new JBT culture at the DOJ is all about. This is what our country has come to.

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    thats why i dont plan on retiring here

    Where ever i go it'll be some place where i can get BNIB MG's for next to nothin

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuzzleFlash
    Pending litigation outcomes to the contrary, the ATF will treat the AA stocks the same as they did the improperly demilled Interordinance parts kits.

    Neither the AA stock or the parts kits have a serial number, both have been declared to be MGs under a technical interpretation of the law, both have had conflicting FTB determinations made where the line has been moved all over the place. The FTB is out of control and is clearly politicized now that Gonzales took over for Ashcroft as the AG.

    In the case of the improperly demilled parts kits, agents fanned out and confiscated the "offending" receivers. You can expect a letter or worse, a knock on the door. If you say "sorry, sold it to a guy at the range", expect to be raided because that is what the new JBT culture at the DOJ is all about. This is what our country has come to.
    Unfortunately I think Muzzleflash may be right. I was advised by a friend in the firearms industry after the ATF's determining it was a machine gun to remove my 10/22 from the stock and store them separately until something is decided. If it is decided that I have to hand over the stock to the ATF then that is what I am going to do. Several people have recommended to me that I "loose it" but to me it is not worth the risk.

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    Smart move MP5, don't think they would buy the boatin' accident thingy!

    I hope they let you keep it as-is though.

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    Trying to tell BATFE you sold it or lost it when you have not even had it a year is not going to fly. Not to mention if you get caught with it say goodnight to ever owning a gun again.

    Muzzleflash may very well be right but like I said before BATFE has grandfathered stuff before look at the open bolt guns like macs and kg9's. They ruled they are a MG because they are "readily convertible to F/A".

    Like I told you when you wanted to buy it.......It's a gamble I had a very bad feeling they would pull this crap. I would not panic and take the gun apart until the ruling is complete shoot it up while you can. Not to mention that would be silly anyway as in you own the stock and the 10/22 don't make a damn bit of difference if it is assembled or not.

    If it comes to the point they say turn them in guys then just do it until then shoot it.
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