I was thinking about it and thats what this forum will become if we keep on bitching at that mods about making new rules. We are the first to complain when Government over regulates our lives, but we want to fuking micro manage the site. And newbies will make mistakes, thats what they do. Also I have a camera phone, my kids have "washed" my last 3 cameras. So i'm waiting till they get older to get one. If there are no pic's, its not the end of the world. If anything we need as few rules as poss. I think the mods do a good job at patrolling the site