Quote Of The Day

[TSOTSI]

[Flatline]

I guess they both leave a pile of Sh*t to clean up too

[TriggerHappy]

To quote my buddy from last night

"do you know of any dogs that like ice cubes?...I can relate" effin classic.

[Ronin13]

Awesome! I love that!

[Mazin]

That was a pretty radical Idea...Gonna take me a few min to think that one over,"throw out the fed tax and replace it with a consumption tax...3 intial thoughts;

1 how would it be gauged
2 what would it do to the gop or would it just even out as the same pecentage just a fancy new name.
3 I wonder if I could get a tax break on hiring someone to clean up my 4 dogs crap.

[KevDen2005]

Innovation and new ideas are important in government. I don't know if I agree or understand exactly how a fair tax will work but the current system isn't working that great.

It's broke and needs to be fixed.

[TSOTSI]

Innovation and new ideas are important in government. I don't know if I agree or understand exactly how a fair tax will work but the current system isn't working that great.

It's broke and needs to be fixed.

The flat rate consumption tax is no different than property tax. You pay based on your assessed value. Whether your property is $1000 or $1M. The rate is the same. That is how all tax should be. We are are all citizens. This concept of penalizing those that are smart enough and dedicated enough to generate wealth by leveraging the labors of their fellow citizens should be applauded and mimicked, not condemned and envied. Politicians who seek to divide this nation along class lines need to lined up against a lead and copper impregnated wall.

It is also time for unions to go the way of slavery. They have long outlived their relevance and serve to do nothing else than deprive the industries they control the opportunity to compete competitively in the global arena and provide a handful of union bosses the lifestyle of the rich and famous they spend their time condemning.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Oh and Marlin - perhaps you should give yourself a "vacation" for insinuating that I am not smart enough to make it on my own. Also thank you Bailey for your over all assessment of my intelligence, I needed someone to clarify it for me.

[Marlin]

Oh I wasn't stating you specifically, Just IN my experience, I just haven't run across too many union types that were real good at thinking on their feet.

Who knows you might be one of the rare exceptions.

[clublights]

I'm sure I'm going to piss off our local union rep here but ... it IS my experience with unions in my industry.

I work as basically a stagehand( well I'm really a lighting designer .. been doing this for almost 20 years now ) Some of my WORST days are days I get told I'm gonna have union "help". I find union stagehands to be the laziest, most overpaid, least knowledgeable folks in my industry.

I make a decent wage. the only way that union guys make more then me are with 4 hour mini's. and overly low overtime starts.

I Did almost join the local union recently.. but that was since I work at a venue here in town and the management was jerking us around. pay was "low" ( I only worked there for a bit of extra cash and only on shows for bands I wanted to see) and the BS meter was rising. if we had been able to get the vote to go that way I would have been given a union card flat out...

Otherwise you have to work for years.. and start at the bottom of the pool to get to a card.. if they vote you in. It's bullshit I have 20 years experience. and that counts for NOTHING. I'm sorry I can't start back at the bottom. My skill level is too high to go back to shucking cable around or laying carpets down at the convention center.

So if I had gotten my "house" to go union .. blam I get a card... but otherwise I have to kiss as and work shit jobs for years to get the card???

yeah No thanks... keep your bullshit to yourself.