Quote Originally Posted by hghclsswhttrsh View Post
I whole heartily 100% DISAGREE with you. I have had this debate hundreds of times. First thing I would ask is what difference does it make to someone who is not in a union where there dues go? Why is it that is the first thing people with weak arguments say - Well you are just funding a board of people to go to the Bahamas and blah blah blah. Who fucking cares? We all spend our money where we want. Unions are here to keep large corporations in check. So the multi-million dollar CEO, CFO can remember he has a fucking job because of the "help" in the trenches are working their assess off. That way the Union employee can make what they deserve.

Next dumb ass non-union comment is, - well you support the lazy guys that don't do shit while you work hard. I guarantee everyone from the guy working at jiffy lube all the way to the middle and upper management know of just as many people that are free loading ass bags.

All I can say is, it is our right to organize as much as it is for you to own a gun. So take your non union rat ass packing self and go earn less and work yourself to death.
Wow... somebody feels passionate about this one. I don't think that anybody has a problem with collective bargaining within a business. Unfortunately, with the way government and businesses and unions are entertwined today, unions are my problem, even though I don't belong to one nor have I ever. When a union contributes to the downfall of a company, like GM, and it gets bailed out with my money, it becomes my problem.

Furthermore, how does one union (UAW) that represents workers from three competing companies help anybody? Why do public servants need to be unionized? What right does the NLRB have to block Boeing from building a new factory? Why is joining a union compulsory for some jobs?

It should be the job of the shareholders to keep a corporation in check. And the "help" should also remember that they have a job because of the CEO, and everybody else that made the company what it is. Union workers, like any worker, should get paid what they deserve, based on the market value of their labor, not some arbitrary value.

As for your next "dumbass non-union comment", your argument here is flawed. We all know there are lazy people that get by on the hard work of others. But they should be fired, whether in a union or not. Your argument that lazy non-union workers justifies lazy union workers doesn't work. Sorry.

It should be the right of workers to unionize, just like it should be the right of a CEO or owner of a business to fire anyone he wants to. The last sentence of your post is intriguing. You make it sound like you are entitled to a certain wage, whether your labor justifies it or not. Wages should be based on the assesed value of your labor by whoever is in charge of signing paychecks.

I guess what I'm really tired of is this perceived struggle between worker and business owner. Both are dependent on each other. One shouldn't try to take advantage of the other. A worker should go to work to work, and an owner should go to work to run his business. Both have rights, and one group's rights don't outweigh the other's.