We did here in Colorado ... its called TABOR. And under TABOR the Stormwater "fee" was basically an illegal tax, so many folk refused to pay it. However instead of having the court overturn this illegal tax (even though it was called a fee) we got rid of it by passing a ballot initiative. Thus it was never actually DECLARED an illegal tax. So that means if you didn't pay it you still have to pay up.
That said, sending in armed agents of the state to take the money by force is government run amok and wrong and the individual officers that allowed themselves to be used in this fashion are no less guilty than the government officials that ordered them in.
As for the whole "anti-cop" thing ... if we aren't allowed to discuss the misdeeds of some police officers (or in this case the misuse of police officers by the state) without being accused of "cop bashing" than we're going to end up with a society where the law abiding no longer trust the police ... which in the end will suck WORSE for the good police.
The problem we have now (and it tends to rear its head in this forum) is that there are too many in law enforcement who are unwilling to admit that there are large numbers of their "brothers and sisters in blue" that are gladly becoming jack booted thugs for a runaway state and have no respect for the rights of the people. Thing is I know that many of you LEOs here abhor this kind of action ... it is incumbent on you to stand against it from the inside if you want to see our republic survive and stop defending your corrupt fellow officers. You need to be Americans FIRST and police officers second.
Its also incumbent upon each of us outside of law enforcement to lend support to those officers and deputies that DO stand up against the tide of jack booted thuggary. If you think it can get bad for those of us "civilians" that speak out against the excesses of the police, imagine how tough its going to be on those that stand against the JBTs while in uniform ... they aren't going to do it if we on the outside make them stand on their own.
Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".
"Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
-Penn Jillette
A World Without Guns <- Great Read!
ut it feels soooo good.
also. Take a look at all of elhuero's posts and you will see a vast majority of them are anti police. when someone has such a strong view point about something I am sure posting an article about police taking money from businesses was done soley for information purposes and not to make a point.
joe
Wow! Just wow.
Always make those drops and don't keep any extra cash in the register. Never know when thugs will come in and rob you.
So, is a writ carry the same weight as a warrant?
Micheal HoffHard times make strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times
In the past he has posted 10 new threads about police. 8 of those being negative. If I signed up and posted 8 out of 10 threads about hating guns and they are the root of all evil I would probably be banned or you would naturally feel that I would be against guns. Correct? All I am saying is there are articles out there of officers doing good work and yet he seems to go out of his way to post articles about officers doing bad.
How about a post of these....?
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/08/...-who-lost-leg/
http://www.turnto23.com/news/28684120/detail.html
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011...-court-officer
http://www.shelbystar.com/news/polic...per-saves.html
He has a history of posting negative articles and making negative posts. There are a lot of great officers out there and he never posts any of their stories.
end and I am pulling the eject button.
joe
I support Elhuero
Brian H
Longmont CO
"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do."
you didn't post threads with those good stories either. does that make you as much of an anti cop dick as I supposedly am?
does this mean that I can bash cops as long as I post a link to a "good" cop story to balance it out?
do you have any opinion of or apology for the link that I did post? or did you ignore it outright because I posted it I'm "anti cop"
you see, I get where you're coming from. believe me, I've tried to show that I don't hate cops, but it doesn't work.
once pro cop folks (or anyone who has they're mind REALLY made up about something... like say, oh.. child molesters and the death penalty) have made up their mind about you there is no way to undo it.
and posting pro police stories pisses them off even more, because they feel like instead of showing gratitude or thanks I'm simply mocking them.
the fact that you're throwing a tantrum instead of engaging in dialog shows the mindset you have.
so it's a good thing you ejected, because you never had your pilot's license to start with.