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    Why does he have to be tolerant if what his teacher believes? It Is obvious that his teacher is not tolerant of his views. Tolerance used to be a 2 way street, where people could agree to disagree and move on. Now it is we have to accept everyone else's views and beliefs, while they trample on ours and are disgusted and appalled that we do not think the same. Tolerance is no longer a 2 way street... it is a highway that only goes one direction.

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    There is no place for any sort of comment in any classroom unless the instructor was encouraging discussion and debate.

    If discussion and debate was being encouraged, then the instructor needs to be disciplined for escalating the event outside of his or her's classroom. Whether it conflicted with their personal beliefs or not.

    If discussion and debate was not being encouraged, then the student in this article should rightfully be disciplined.

    It seems pretty cut and dry to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantar18c View Post
    So what if he thinks black people smell bad? Why are we worried about other people's feelings?
    I know you like your analogies, so look at it like this:
    If you and I are walking down the street and see a middle-eastern looking guy, and I threaten him, I could be in trouble.
    If you and I are sitting in Subway and I say "Islam/Muslims are scum and need to be wiped off the face of the earth," its a bit different. Why? Because I'm not directing it at a particular individual. Sure someone that overhears might get butthurt about it, but BFD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Jesus Christ.
    Stop feeding the ignorant and they'll eventually starve, Irving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhood001 View Post
    There is no place for any sort of comment in any classroom unless the instructor was encouraging discussion and debate.

    If discussion and debate was being encouraged, then the instructor needs to be disciplined for escalating the event outside of his or her's classroom. Whether it conflicted with their personal beliefs or not.

    If discussion and debate was not being encouraged, then the student in this article should rightfully be disciplined.

    It seems pretty cut and dry to me.
    True, but from the article it sounds like he was disciplined for what he said, not because he said something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSOTSI View Post
    The reality is that a "real" man wouldn't be caught dead working in a liberal shithole like a public school. Therefore all that is left to fill the void that isn't already occupied by feminazis, are starfish troopers and their metrosexual sympathizers.

    Wow dude... Guess I should turn in my man card to you then huh? I appreciate your candidness and generalizations since I teach in public schools and stick up for my 2nd (and all other rights). I even had a lesson recently on musical volumne relating to the decibles of gunshots. (You guys should've seen the parent responses to that one. And people say that parents aren't involved in their children's education anymore, HA.)

    People say real men don't cry or need Jesus either, but I sure do. That's a different thread however.

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    You can keep in mind here that we are only getting one side of the story. The teacher or the school district cannot speak to media while the incident is being investigated by the district. Not to mention this was part of a newly adopted policy of the school district for "anti-bullying".

    The Fort Worth school district has expanded its anti-bullying policy to protect students who express themselves -- including their sexuality -- in nontraditional ways, a move that gay-rights advocates say is positive and progressive.
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    Being married to a teacher I can tell you this, 90% of the time this stuff does not happen once and result in a suspension. What we are probably not being told is what harassment took place prior to the incident. The perspective most are taking is that this was an isolated incident which I seriously doubt. Something we will not find out until the school district finishes its investigation.

    One final note, any man willing to teach our kids for crappy pay, little to no respect, and in a female dominated environment is a hero to me. It would be like having 30 wives and you only get to be around them when they are bitchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBear View Post
    Wow dude... Guess I should turn in my man card to you then huh? I appreciate your candidness and generalizations since I teach in public schools and stick up for my 2nd (and all other rights). I even had a lesson recently on musical volumne relating to the decibles of gunshots. (You guys should've seen the parent responses to that one. And people say that parents aren't involved in their children's education anymore, HA.)

    People say real men don't cry or need Jesus either, but I sure do. That's a different thread however.
    Amen!

    My biggest issues with public schools are the unions and career administrators who seem to be politicians in training. IMO, teaching, as a profession, is a calling. When a teacher becomes more interested in anything besides the students and what they are learning, they are doing their profession a disservice.

    The schools need more teachers who care about students learning and less about offending some political constituency.

    Again, just my opinion. I personally wouldn't last two minutes in a public school classroom. Not enough patience and way too quick to respond to the challenge "make me."
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantar18c View Post
    How did the student put down anyone with his comment? He simply stated his beliefs to a friend, he didn't direct the comment at any individual.
    I wasn't referring to what the kid said... I was referring to what ronin said about liberals...
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