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    Quote Originally Posted by stevelkinevil View Post
    I know its expensive, but a FN FiveseveN may be ideal. Extremely light even fully loaded, very low recoil, high capacity, and can get the job done.
    if anybody in this house gets a five seven its me

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    I Really have a problem with any HIGH VELOCITY RIFLE Cartridge used in a home defense scenario.

    at best you are only sued for shooting through the perp, your house and jacking up the neighbors car.

    worst case... the neighbors kid.

    I vote 22lr HP




    Ballistic performance summary for various 5.7×28mm cartridges
    _______________ SS190_____________ SS195LF________________SS197SR_____________EA Protector________EA Varmintor__________EA S4
    Projectile weight__2.0 g (31 gr)________1.8 g (28 gr)_____________2.6 g (40 gr)_________2.6 g (40 gr)________2.3 g (36 gr)__________1.8 g (28 gr)
    Muzzle velocity___650 m/s (2,130 ft/s)__625 m/s (2,050 ft/s)______520 m/s (1,700 ft/s)___610 m/s (2,000 ft/s)__640 m/s (2,100 ft/s)___770 m/s (2,520 ft/s)
    Muzzle energy____424 J (313 ft-lb) _____350 J (260 ft-lb)_________350 J (260 ft-lb)______480 J (355 ft-lb)_____480 J (355 ft-lb)_______535 J (395 ft-lb)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Five-seven
    Last edited by Byte Stryke; 09-28-2011 at 09:16. Reason: added velocities chart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    I Really have a problem with any HIGH VELOCITY RIFLE Cartridge used in a home defense scenario.

    at best you are only sued for shooting through the perp, your house and jacking up the neighbors car.

    worst case... the neighbors kid.

    I vote 22lr HP
    yeah id probably stick with 22lr for a few reasons , one being 500+ rounds for 20 bucks

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    HD = 20 Gauge or .410

    EDC = .380 .357 with .38 spl rounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    I Really have a problem with any HIGH VELOCITY RIFLE Cartridge used in a home defense scenario.

    at best you are only sued for shooting through the perp, your house and jacking up the neighbors car.

    worst case... the neighbors kid.

    I vote 22lr HP




    Ballistic performance summary for various 5.7×28mm cartridges
    _______________ SS190_____________ SS195LF________________SS197SR_____________EA Protector________EA Varmintor__________EA S4
    Projectile weight__2.0 g (31 gr)________1.8 g (28 gr)_____________2.6 g (40 gr)_________2.6 g (40 gr)________2.3 g (36 gr)__________1.8 g (28 gr)
    Muzzle velocity___650 m/s (2,130 ft/s)__625 m/s (2,050 ft/s)______520 m/s (1,700 ft/s)___610 m/s (2,000 ft/s)__640 m/s (2,100 ft/s)___770 m/s (2,520 ft/s)
    Muzzle energy____424 J (313 ft-lb) _____350 J (260 ft-lb)_________350 J (260 ft-lb)______480 J (355 ft-lb)_____480 J (355 ft-lb)_______535 J (395 ft-lb)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Five-seven
    actually unless you are using a super hot or AP round it does not overpenatrate, in fact the FBI decided it did not penetrate enough. Your standard hot 9mil will penetrate more than a 5.7. The round distorts and or tumbles and actually has less chance of over penetrating than standard SD loads.
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