Steve Job's Died.

[patrick0685]

not a huge fan of apple but his skills and innovations will be missed, he was a brilliant person may he RIP

[sniper7]

80's*

85-96 is when he was gone from apple.

Recently apple was bigger then Exxon Mobile. they were the largest company in the US and I think the world.

All from a garage in Southren Cali. talk about the american dream .

yeah I am not old enough to know these things, I am 26! thought I read 76 but I was wrong! thanks for catching that.

I am truly amazed at what they accomplished, and how jobs was able to turn things around and really emerge as a great company. I imagine there are very few homes in the US that don't have something with an "I" in them.

[mevshooter]

And we haven't even gotten to the part where he co-founded Pixar, for crying out loud!

Crazy talented individual.

[pickenup]

May he R.I.P.

[claimbuster]

Truly a man of incredible vision.

[Grastmatt2552]

The world of technology has lost a pioneer.

Rest in peace Mr. Jobs.

[TSOTSI]

Before we get a little to carried away here are a few reality checks.
1. GUIs (the foundation of Apple is a Xerox invention)
2. While his name appears on at least 10 patents for Apple, they are all collaborative with a team of people and are all to do with the aesthetics and shapes. No engineering or electronics.
3. There would be no Apple today were it not for Bill Gates and Larry Ellison.
4. He created more jobs in China than the USA
5. He was to Apple what Donald Trump is to the Trump Empire. A visionary, a salesman extraordinaire a leader, but no Edison, Bell, Marconi.
6. Not to mention an ardent supporter of the moron in the white house.
7. If you think his politics weren't important and influential, let me ask this?
What do you think are the electronics of choice in the sea of unwashed scum that are Occupy Wall Street?
8. Lastly. How much financial resources did he donate to politicians and causes to deprive our brothers and sisters in California of there 2nd Amendment Rights?

Lets not get all sloppy and start the canonization just yet folks.

[Graves]

Before we get a little to carried away here are a few reality checks.
1. GUIs (the foundation of Apple is a Xerox invention)
2. While his name appears on at least 10 patents for Apple, they are all collaborative with a team of people and are all to do with the aesthetics and shapes. No engineering or electronics.
3. There would be no Apple today were it not for Bill Gates and Larry Ellison.
4. He created more jobs in China than the USA
5. He was to Apple what Donald Trump is to the Trump Empire. A visionary, a salesman extraordinaire a leader, but no Edison, Bell, Marconi.
6. Not to mention an ardent supporter of the moron in the white house.
7. If you think his politics weren't important and influential, let me ask this?
What do you think are the electronics of choice in the sea of unwashed scum that are Occupy Wall Street?
8. Lastly. How much financial resources did he donate to politicians and causes to deprive our brothers and sisters in California of there 2nd Amendment Rights?

Lets not get all sloppy and start the canonization just yet folks.

[MrPrena]

Book value alone is not a good way to valuate the company either.

for an example:
What if OWNER1 have a $5mil building (and or invested in capital) Restaurant w/ 200employee, but my rev/profit is only 8m/1m
In contrast, OWNER2 have a $1m (and or invested in capital) building restaurant w/ 10employee, but their rev/profit is 13/5m?

There are over >30 fundementals for people to take a look at.

(not to mention to see technicals, economic indicators, sector indexes, option/short ratios, vel of $ relative to change in indexes, etc^1000 )



AAPL is not that over priced relative to other tech/electronic companies (P/E (ttm): 14.96), and XOM is P/E (ttm): 9.75.
To make it relative, AMZN's PE Ratio is P/E (ttm): 96.82 , CVX has P/E (ttm): 8.27 , and COP has P/E (ttm): 8.07 .


btw, although I am defending AAPL's price, I am not a fan of AAPL.

[clublights]

Wow .. I've never attacked anyone personally as I'm about to .. and frankly by the time I'm done.. I deserve a ban ..

TSO...

This is about the man dying. frankly if you don't get how much of a hand that Jobs had on EVERY apple product since his return in 1996 and how much that has changed the entire computer industry.. then your a fucking idiot.

Mr Prena...

Again this is about a man dying .. before his time ( frankly Jobs was fairly young.. 56 years old.) and again if you think he had zero to do with the way computers work today .. your a fucking idiot too..


did apple invent the mouse GUI?..No.. did apple bring it to the masses and market the fuck out of it ( with the permission of xerox) ? YES.

Did apple invent the smart phone? no.. did apple make it explode in the last 5 years? YES. has apple by many measures beat exxon for total value in the last few months? YES.

you hate apple hate apple I don;t give a rats ass.. this thread is about a man . a man with a family that has died much too young and frankly before hs time. has some fucking respect. you jack asses.

7. If you think his politics weren't important and influential, let me ask this?
What do you think are the electronics of choice in the sea of unwashed scum that are Occupy Wall Street?

I've got over a dozen apple products sitting within 20 feet of me right now .... so does that suddenly make me one of those occupy wall street people??? ... no .. so go fuck yerself.

you wanna make a thread bashing apple go right the fuck ahead. I made this thread about a man who died.


I'll take my ban now... email me at clublights@mac.com and let me know for how long.