What the F*ck, over?

[flan7211]

Liberal arts degrees are bullshit. I have one. I'll be honest my pursuits of intellectual prowess didn't change at all during school. It's a money pit and a waste of time. Yes markets and capitalism has its faults like everything but these protesters are just begging for an ass kicking!

[BigMat]

I thought this quote belonged here-

"We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality."
-Ayn Rand


Personally, I have a BS degree, a BA in Latin American Studies, I have never regretted it for a moment. I planned on going to law school, plans changed, long story, I ended up in health care, and I am back in school again for nursing.


The degree allowed me to apply for jobs that had the people-without-degree-need-not-apply stipulation, and get one, and I have sense more than paid off the time in college. Not to discount the education I feel I gained, I count myself as smarter and more well rounded thanks in large part to my time in university. Also, I met my wife while I was in school, I would give up every dollar I will ever make for that.


This argument has nothing to do with college, or stupid degrees, that is just the scape goat de jour, it is an issue of being wasteful. As a people we have come to expect more than we earn. People go to college that they can't afford, just as people buy houses that are too big, cars that are too pricey, and guns that they cant pay for without credit, or iPads, ever.

None of this is the fault of the bankers or Wall Street- Do they allow for it sure, facilitate it, absolutely, but no more so than a firearm facilitates murder or a car allows for accidents. The fault lays on the head of those who pull the trigger or swipe the card, and until we can accept the blame for what we have done we won't fix our problems.

If you are in debt, work, make money, stop spending. If you want to be an artist, go for it, as a hobby, or spend a few years working to pay for the education and equipment. If you bought a house and lost your hat, you took a risk, period. Anyone, ever, who makes an investment should realize that the term implies risk, even the safest investment, savings accounts, are insured. You may as well have gone to Vegas and bet on the short odds...sorry, that's on you. Hand outs should come from mom and God, if someone else gives you something along the way, great, but don't plan on it and don't expect it, and honestly, its very sad to demand it.


Know that I say this as a man who graduated as the economy tanked. We decided not to buy a house when all of our friends were, because the way we read the numbers we decided we couldn't afford it. My wife and I have both faced hard choices, and lay offs, and we have both worked hard and pulled though, to those people who say they can't find a job in this economy, I know we have, I have found several, my wife as well. We just had to lower our standards, changed our plans, and come to terms with a new reality, and keep on working. New cars, nope, fancy guns, not this guy anymore, big house, not planning on it. Happy, you better believe it.

-Who do I blame, I couldn't care less, I can still work hard and make my way. I have a beautiful wife, that knows how to cook, and a pair of dogs that make me laugh, I have a little piece of heaven right here and I don't have the time to waste with a sign on Wall Street.

[Elhuero]

I'm in school right now.

community college. associate of arts, then I will transfer and finish with a BS in BS (political science)

years back when I would job hunt I'd always find good jobs that I could do, but they wouldn't look at you without a degree.

so, I'm studying poli sci because it's what I'm interested in. and if I have to go back to doing dead end jobs because of the economy, that's fine.

why? because unlike the people that are "marching" (on T.V. all I saw was people sitting around) I am

1. not greedy
2. able to live within my means

I'll never feel like I wasted anything, I'm learning and enjoying it and I consider it money well spent.

these people don't know anything. they are automatons, born and bred to do what they are told.

you could shit them out a gold brick and they would complain that it's too heavy.

I'd join the military in a heartbeat if they'd take me, but that's not an option. so instead of whining about it I just do what a normal, well adjusted person would do. Deal with it.

[Elhuero]

I thought this quote belonged here-

"We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality."
-Ayn Rand


Personally, I have a BS degree, a BA in Latin American Studies, I have never regretted it for a moment. I planned on going to law school, plans changed, long story, I ended up in health care, and I am back in school again for nursing.


The degree allowed me to apply for jobs that had the people-without-degree-need-not-apply stipulation, and get one, and I have sense more than paid off the time in college. Not to discount the education I feel I gained, I count myself as smarter and more well rounded thanks in large part to my time in university. Also, I met my wife while I was in school, I would give up every dollar I will ever make for that.


This argument has nothing to do with college, or stupid degrees, that is just the scape goat de jour, it is an issue of being wasteful. As a people we have come to expect more than we earn. People go to college that they can't afford, just as people buy houses that are too big, cars that are too pricey, and guns that they cant pay for without credit, or iPads, ever.

None of this is the fault of the bankers or Wall Street- Do they allow for it sure, facilitate it, absolutely, but no more so than a firearm facilitates murder or a car allows for accidents. The fault lays on the head of those who pull the trigger or swipe the card, and until we can accept the blame for what we have done we won't fix our problems.

If you are in debt, work, make money, stop spending. If you want to be an artist, go for it, as a hobby, or spend a few years working to pay for the education and equipment. If you bought a house and lost your hat, you took a risk, period. Anyone, ever, who makes an investment should realize that the term implies risk, even the safest investment, savings accounts, are insured. You may as well have gone to Vegas and bet on the short odds...sorry, that's on you. Hand outs should come from mom and God, if someone else gives you something along the way, great, but don't plan on it and don't expect it, and honestly, its very sad to demand it.


Know that I say this as a man who graduated as the economy tanked. We decided not to buy a house when all of our friends were, because the way we read the numbers we decided we couldn't afford it. My wife and I have both faced hard choices, and lay offs, and we have both worked hard and pulled though, to those people who say they can't find a job in this economy, I know we have, I have found several, my wife as well. We just had to lower our standards, changed our plans, and come to terms with a new reality, and keep on working. New cars, nope, fancy guns, not this guy anymore, big house, not planning on it. Happy, you better believe it.

-Who do I blame, I couldn't care less, I can still work hard and make my way. I have a beautiful wife, that knows how to cook, and a pair of dogs that make me laugh, I have a little piece of heaven right here and I don't have the time to waste with a sign on Wall Street.

Fuckin' A right.

Best of everything to you guys. you're the glue that will keep this country together.

[Ridge]

Poor underprivileged kids with $700 Canon cameras and $600 iPads



Nice to finally see some good old fashioned protest action!

[alxone]

um wow , went to the link and what a bunch of sniveling babies . try this on kids , no school , no benefits , no family trust fund , never asked for shit , and even with no job for over a year i still have a enough hustle to pay for my fathers meds food pets and little luxuries like cigs and coffee .yep moved out at 15 and did not move back till the old man need my help . never got one red cent from the parents once i move out ....grrrr... f*cking lazy cry babies , there is work and money in the damn world if you have just a little bit of self respect and the drive to get it done . what the hell happened to the world ? did people stop teaching the younger people how to get along in the world on there own ?
i dont recall who said it but if thats 99% i need more ammo

[Eggysrun]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65410.html

[Ronin13]

I thought this quote belonged here-

"We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality."
-Ayn Rand...
[Straight fucking genius]

I won't use up space and quote everything you said... but, what you said makes me think you should be a damn Astrophysics Professor at MIT. Genius.
How hard is it to understand: "Do not live outside your means." These people learned their finances from the gov I think, because they're obviously spending more than they're making and expecting to not have to pay it back. Help me understand the logic here! I screwed up in my youth and piled up some CC debt... now I have 1 credit card- a Best Buy credit car- that has a limit of $500. I make a little over $2,000/month. I pay my bills, live on my own and support myself- If I want a new gun that costs $900, I start setting money aside to afford it, because I damn sure can't afford it right away. How is this so impossible to understand?

[tonantius]

The far left, mainly Steven Lerner, is behind this OWS BS, with Soros money. This has been planned for months. It is so astroturf. The only problem is that these young people with mush for brains are easy to recruit. they are pre-brainwashed by the university professors.