If you are convicted of a felony.....

[hunterhawk]

As far as I know, there is no penalty for not turning in a revoked CCW card, nor is there much effort put into recovering such a card in the case that the card is revoked.

Unless you call the issuing county's Sheriff's Department and validate the permit at the point of sale, it is essentially just another piece of plastic in a wallet.

For me, seeing a CCW permit is enough. It certainly isn't a guarantee that the person holding it isn't a scumbag, but in my experience, people willing to put money, time, and effort into anything generally aren't the sort of people I worry about.

I'd like to see an LEO weigh in on this.

I can tell you right now it isnt a LEO who takes it..... its not like your drivers license when they refuse everything....
it's either done through the courts or possibly an admin building person in a sheriffs office i guess who might send them a letter saying that have to return it.... hmmmm

[hunterhawk]

and for the record i just looked on the back of the card and it says that any law enforcement officer who believes that the holder of this permit is in violation of crs 18-12-203 can confiscate it... but im telling you right now they dont confiscate them... because they arent thinking about that at the time of arrest if they are arresting for dv or a felony.... they are thinking about the elements of the crime and all of that for their report....

ok going to bed... hopefully someone can verify this for me

[sometimesright]

Certainly no expert here (not an attorney nor do I play one on TV, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night) but I seem to recall hearing something about this specific issue possibly related to why some Sheriffs preferred the idea of the database (no intention to start a discussion as to the positives and negatives of that - only mentioning it as one perspective in that thorny debate).

Due to some of the logistical issues with tracking and recovering cards, my guess is that some of those with the responsibility for issuing the cards could quickly and easily let other LE agencies know if someone was no longer to have their card due to a new conviction, etc. Personally I would like a peek at a CCW, but I am also aware that there is a chance (however remote) that the card an individual has may be invalid.

[OneGuy67]

The cards can be seized by any LEO and returned to the issuing S.O. Also, the issuing S.O. can be notified of any arresting/pending charges if the officer decides to.

On CCIC, there is a query ability and when it comes time to renew a person's card, they can be searched both through the criminal history database for arrests as well as the query history for contacts.

[islandermyk]

So here's a question to go with this.
A person who is convicted of a felon or has some issue owning a firearm legally is aware of his status having a firearm of any sort would put him in deeper kaka and still pursues to buy a firearm by private seller... would the private seller (unaware of the individual's status) get in trouble for selling a firearm to this individual?

[car-15]

So here's a question to go with this.
A person who is convicted of a felon or has some issue owning a firearm legally is aware of his status having a firearm of any sort would put him in deeper kaka and still pursues to buy a firearm by private seller... would the private seller (unaware of the individual's status) get in trouble for selling a firearm to this individual?

not without reasonable knowledge that he is a turd. I belive that is how the law is written.

[islandermyk]

not without reasonable knowledge that he is a turd. I belive that is how the law is written.

I see... So along with taking a look at the buyer's ID/CCW would it be wise to ask if the buyer is able to legally own a firearm... or is that going a little to far and seeing the ID/CCW is good enough?

[car-15]

I see... So along with taking a look at the buyer's ID/CCW would it be wise to ask if the buyer is able to legally own a firearm... or is that going a little to far and seeing the ID/CCW is good enough?

I dont even ask for an id if the car they pull up in has colo. plates, and I cant see their underwear or a sideways hat when they get out of the car.

[islandermyk]

I dont even ask for an id if the car they pull up in has colo. plates, and I cant see their underwear or a sideways hat when they get out of the car.

+1 to that, thanks

[Paladin]

It's up to each county- but in Fremont county, they make it very clear the card belongs to THEM- it's not yours to keep.

Seems a bit offensive on the surface, but that's because of lawyers- they have to retain ownership to be able to retrieve it legally. And they will.

Its the same in Larimer county. If you're convicted of certain crimes, you MUST surrender your CCW.