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    Quote Originally Posted by JlazyH View Post
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    Thank you so much. Tonight, these are the best responses I could have gotten.
    My Best, Jess
    Sorry you don't like my responses. You asked for advice and based on my experience dealing with disabilities and the work place, i gave you advice as given to me from legal counsel.
    Your first priority is making sure your wife has a safe, harassment free work place. The second it to follow up on any recourse she may be entitled to under ADA, city and state guidelines. I would strongly suggest you then read through the kroger employee handbook. Procure the latest one in print, you will be surprised what is in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Sorry you don't like my responses. You asked for advice and based on my experience dealing with disabilities and the work place, i gave you advice as given to me from legal counsel.
    Your first priority is making sure your wife has a safe, harassment free work place. The second it to follow up on any recourse she may be entitled to under ADA, city and state guidelines. I would strongly suggest you then read through the kroger employee handbook. Procure the latest one in print, you will be surprised what is in there.
    Jim, in no way did I want to offend you. I am so sorry. After a day full of contacting and trying to contact all the places that have been recommended to us here I was mentaly frazed. The last two or three responses caught me by supprise when the thoughts turned to prayers and concern for my wife and her health. It was an up lift to have help and something done right at that time and not have to think about the long road ahead with legal counsel and finding the right city/state recourses that may be able to help us. Please except my deepest apology. I was in no way blowing you off. I will be searching out ADA regs today and start the process of finding someone to represent us. We do have a paper trail in hand from the very first time I became aware there could be a problem. Letters from all the doctors to her store manager to bills from the hospital for her portion for MRI's and nero work that she had done. Everything up to the letter from Kroger giving her the last 2 options to stay employed with them. Thank you again for your advice and shareing with us what you have gone threw.
    My Best, Jess
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Sorry you don't like my responses. You asked for advice and based on my experience dealing with disabilities and the work place, i gave you advice as given to me from legal counsel.
    Your first priority is making sure your wife has a safe, harassment free work place. The second it to follow up on any recourse she may be entitled to under ADA, city and state guidelines. I would strongly suggest you then read through the kroger employee handbook. Procure the latest one in print, you will be surprised what is in there.

    thought that was odd, too--the only helpful response in the entire thread was not acknowledged

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    Lets look at the other side. The OP admits the company was being used as an entitlement. This is the problem the country faces trying to dig out of a the hole. It isn't just welfare bums who believe they are entitled. There are plenty of people who get up and go to work every day who have the same mentality. A corp is not an entitlement social program. It is an entity whose first responsibility is to the shareholders. This is a federal law if they are publicly traded.

    Unless you enter into a binding contract that specifies certain obligations on both parties, in Colorado, either party can terminate for any reason. The fact that some employers tend to tiptoe and others are more outright when asking you to leave their employment does not alter the laws as they stand. And we are a society of laws.

    It is high time that employers stop providing health insurance and allow everyone to go out and buy their own. Once "EVERYBODY" is on the same level playing field, the free market will kick in just like it has with all other insurance. But that will never happen while the status quo is allowed to continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JlazyH View Post
    Help me a little here. You know this how?
    20 years as administrator/upper management at a large department and then owning my own business for another 15 years and dealing with the ADA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JlazyH View Post
    Jim, in no way did I want to offend you. I am so sorry. After a day full of contacting and trying to contact all the places that have been recommended to us here I was mentaly frazed. The last two or three responses caught me by supprise when the thoughts turned to prayers and concern for my wife and her health. It was an up lift to have help and something done right at that time and not have to think about the long road ahead with legal counsel and finding the right city/state recourses that may be able to help us. Please except my deepest apology. I was in no way blowing you off. I will be searching out ADA regs today and start the process of finding someone to represent us. We do have a paper trail in hand from the very first time I became aware there could be a problem. Letters from all the doctors to her store manager to bills from the hospital for her portion for MRI's and nero work that she had done. Everything up to the letter from Kroger giving her the last 2 options to stay employed with them. Thank you again for your advice and shareing with us what you have gone threw.
    My Best, Jess
    No problem you received my pm?

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    I completely sympathize with your situation. But I don't think the company did anything outside their right. My dad works for John Deere and they kindly ask people to leave all the time. Once they get in their 60's they look to get rid of most of them. If people don't seem they want to leave they say they may move them. I mean come on, an employee can leave anytime they want and leave the company high and dry but a company can't terminate an employee? Doesn't seem fair to me. It's unfortunate it happened it happened to you guys and I'd mad too but think of it this way at least it's not a single mother with two kids you know? Unfortunately when you get older and around retirement age they try to get you out the door. the benefits is arguable but still a gray area to me.

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    God bless you and your wife and I wish you the best of luck and hope it all works out.
    With that, I will add some information. Your wife displayed behavior that clearly showed the company that she was no longer fit to perform her job position in her current health. They offered her a position that she would be more suited for,and more to her capabilities. She resigned.
    I hate to say it because your situation sucks, but lawyering up may just suck your pockets dry in their fees. Kroger has some serious H/R training and the case is going to be really tough. You have a strong emotional tie to the situation which can fog the reality.
    Talking to lawyers can be tough. A lot of them will tell you that you have a stong case, only to bill the **** out of you and when the case flops in the favor of Kroger, they say well, I thought we had a strong case. Billable Hours is what puts food on the table and the longer it can go,, the more $ in the pockets.. I know, I come from a long family of Lawyers. (I am the farthest thing from one).
    Again, best of luck and best to your wifes health.

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    I have a little more information that maybe could add too or help our situation. My wife resigned on the 7th of this month. At that time the HR manager had her sign a paper and stated that her final pay check after she resigned would have her final hours, personal days and pro rated vacation days added. She just received he final check and it did have her hours worked and also pay for her personal days. However she did not receive anything for vacation days she had built up. Also even though she had resigned and had no health insurance they deducted her portion that she used to pay for health care taken out of her final check anyway. Is this standard or should that or those deductions for health care not have been taken out when they had excepted her resignation and knew she had no health care anymore and would not be working there to re start it? We are not trying to sue or go after Kroger simply to try and get money out of them just trying to be fair in what they may owe her.
    Thanks again for all the help everyone has offered here.
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