Quote Originally Posted by jreifsch80 View Post
The only us made guns I own are my ak's (home built with enough compliance parts to be considered us built) just because something isn't made in the us doesn't make it crap. There are a lot of quality guns that have come out of china (I can't speak for their shotguns but mak90's and chicom sks' come to mind) not to pick a fight but if atrain was asking qustions about a glock would you dismiss his question to tell him buy american? Yes I know you can't make a direct comparison between glock and chicom knock offs but you can see what I'm getting at.

Anyway, atrain, why don't you just get a saiga 12? hahaha
You have an interesting point there jreifsh80.
The AK and SKS just as the Tokarev pattern firearms were more than likely manufactured on Soviet tooling under "License" to China. Direct Soviet interaction with China resulted in the ChiCom weapons and true AK's and such.
Items such as Atrains shotty and most others were retro-engineered and that is why you get the variances with the item they copied. This is what makes it difficult to adapt US parts to them.
The one notable exception is the Norinco 1911. The Norinco M14 is pretty close but just oddball enough.