So we've seen the manifesto from the Wall Street group, where is the manifesto from the Denver group?
No, you haven't seen a manifesto from any of these "Groups", because they aren't that coherent. There have been a lot of individuals calling for a wide variety of things... quite a few of those things being full on retard. Not all of it, though.
One of the more interesting bits of this is watching how it evolves over time. Starting to see internet-scale speed meeting meatspace reality. Should be interesting.
And as for civil disobedience, it has it's place and time. If they want to make their stand now, I'm not going to criticize them for standing up for what they believe... even if they haven't quite decided that part.
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Does anyone else feel that there are unseen puppeteers whipping up a maelstrom of discontent here to distract us from another agenda? Or perhaps they are just winding up the spring to turn it loose for more hopey-changey crap in the coming election cycle? Unfocused frustration and anger often expresses itself in unpredictable and unforeseen ways.
As an aside, if the idiots that are protesting for the sake of protesting put half as much energy into finding and keeping productive jobs as they do into whining about their lot in life, they would probably find that their lot in life didn't suck nearly as much.
Short version: Suck it up, put on your big girl panties, and DO something with your lives. Those of us that work for a living and live within our means are sick and tired of listening to you halfwits whine about how you've run up a quarter million dollars in debt to spend 8 years to get an associate degree in neoclassical art appreciation. Get a friggin job already...
/friday morning caffeine deprived rant
Light a fire for a man, and he'll be warm for a day, light a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life...
Discussion is an exchange of intelligence. Argument is an exchange of
ignorance. Ever found a liberal that you can have a discussion with?
1- My thoughts as well, it doesnt take a whole lot of connect the dots to figure out that Left leaning organizations are stoking the fires-Moveon.org, SEIU, .gov etc to the "Occupy" movement. What is interesting is the fact that the decision to put the Kabosh on this was fairly universal across the board. Makes me think as the message and impetus of the "Occupy" crowd started to tangent more from Wall St to a Pennsylvania Ave gripe that those in certain high places saw this starting to work against them and a universal foot was put down.
2 and 2A- H Caine put it best- "If you dont have a job and your not a millionaire, don't blame Wall Street or the banks, blame yourself"
Africkinmen!
The most important thing to be learned from those who demand "Equality For All" is that all are not equal...
Gun Control - seeking a Hardware solution for a Software problem...
Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".
"Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
-Penn Jillette
A World Without Guns <- Great Read!
i dont think you guys understand we need to open the borders , make gay mirage legal , take away guns ,legalize drugs, smash the corporate machine and wipe my student loans away , yes i got my doctorate in fine art theory specializing in the painting of frog toenails . i wonder why i cant find a job but the only place i look is on facebook in between video games and oprah .
if you believe that i got a bridge to sell you
I saw a manifesto from the Wall Street mob:
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/10/03/o...of-13-demands/From Weasel Zippers
Originally posted by Weasel Zippers:
Occupy Wall Street Protesters Post Manifesto Of 13 “Demands”…
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending “Freetrade” by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
Demand four: Free college education.
Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.
Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.
Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.
Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.
Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.
Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the “Books.” World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the “Books.” And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.
Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.
Denver was incoherent, even Boyles couldn't get a straight answer.
Certainly time will tell if this gets any traction with the middle class, or if the Tea Party grows more within the middle class or if the middle class goes back to watching American Idiots Dancing while being Losers.