(Drool)

[Scanker19]

That was my reaction.

http://newtrajectory.blogspot.com/20...-for-home.html

[Zundfolge]

Wow, I can't believe ANYONE still cites Kellermann (hell, even Kellermann himself doesn't).

[Ronin13]

I am no 1.8% dumber than I was before reading that.... thanks for that (now I'm on the same level as Irving! )
I feel bad for people who believe that, they're the same people who want to undermine the constitution and be rid of that pesky 2nd Amendment.

[KevDen2005]

Not even gonna read past the first couple of sentences to know that is complete crap. RIDICULOUS!

[flan7211]

HAHAHAHA. What absolute bs. Self defense is your responsibility. The 80 year old woman down the street who is in the neighborhood watch won't do **** when some fag enters your house. BTW last night mother F&$^er was in my shed. I think he might come back tonight it's been going on a lot lately.

[BPTactical]

Gun owner
or
Victim


You decide

[ChunkyMonkey]

Article also fails to mention how many times gun owners have prevented the crime from happening. It only quoted defensive gun usage. There are plenty more stories, both reported and not, of gunowners stopping crimes/violence without the actual shooting!

[Ronin13]

Gun owner
or
Victim


You decide

Gun owner-> not always obligated to protect potential victims... they should remember that one!

[Zundfolge]

The Kellermann study has three major flaws.

1) It included suicides (in effing King County Washington ... the suicide capital of the US).
2) It required you to KILL an intruder in order to count as a "self defensive use".
3) It didn't differentiate between types of owners (a gang banger with a stolen glock is counted equally with an Orthodontist that collects 5 figure Italian shotguns).

So the original finding was that a gun kept in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a family member or acquaintance* than to kill an intruder. (*note that "acquaintance" as used here simply meant that the shooter and shootee knew each other before the shooting ... so a pimp shooting his ho or a drug dealer shooting a delinquent customer is the same thing as an innocent child finding a gun and accidentally shooting one of their siblings).

After Kellermann was called on the carpet for his bogus study even he revised the numbers down to 2.5 to 1 (so I have no idea where this idiot got the 22 to 1 figure). Even at 2.5 to 1 his study is flawed (all he did is removed the suicides ... all the other flaws still exist).

[rondog]

Wow, good thing I don't own just "A" gun, I feel much safer bristling with weapons.