What Am I Missing? - Israel and Hamas (Palestinians)

[Mick-Boy]

OK so here's a question. Let's play to the assumption that it is black and white.

What should Israel do? How do they ensure their own peace and prosperity?

[Irving]

Ronin, have you read Unintended Consequences?

[Ronin13]

Ronin, have you read Unintended Consequences?

No, can't say I have... I'm currently reading that criticism of the drug war book by the former Sheriff of San Miguel County (Telluride)... Should I add it to the next book in line?

[alxone]

OK so here's a question. Let's play to the assumption that it is black and white.

What should Israel do? How do they ensure their own peace and prosperity?

d*mn i wish i could type better but ill give it a shot

if not give back some of the land that was taken at least have an open agriculture program using those lands in question

try some real peace talks without the preconceived notion of failure

i bet if they just started there things would start progressing .
the real problem with that part of the world is it considered holy land by d*mn near everyone so they all feel as if they are chosen and have the right to inflict not only political but religious views . you can never have peace when everyone feels that they are right and has god on there side.

[Ronin13]

Mick- after spending 7 months at the US Army Intelligence School, and continuous counter-terror training throughout my tenure as an S2 ANCOIC I think my knowledge of all kinds of terrorists is pretty wide. It's not focused simply on ME terrorists, but also extreme right and left wing domestic terrorists (like PETA!) and many many others from around the globe. I personally, as an American of Irish heritage (and Scottish too) do not believe that the PIRA/IRA/RIRIA/etc. ARE NOT (typo- my bad) terrorists organizations. They responded to a threat and do not specifically target civilians. Granted the law of unintended consequences comes to play in their bombings in London, Belfast and other areas of the region. Need I mention the Scottish revolution, Bloody Sunday, and the peak of the Troubles? Personally, and this is simply my educated opinion on the matter, the IRA and different factions therein, are not in the wrong in opposing the last of the British empire's outstretched dominance.

[Mick-Boy]

I can see my request for a little intellectual honesty didn't didn't take.

You rock on in your black and white world. Continue making judgements of millions of people based on your opinions and issuing blanket statements on America's foreign policy when you clearly have very little understanding of the issues involved. Whoever trained you has failed on an epic level.

[alxone]

I can see my request for a little intellectual honesty didn't didn't take.

You rock on in your black and white world. Continue making judgements of millions of people based on your opinions and issuing blanket statements on America's foreign policy when you clearly have very little understanding of the issues involved. Whoever trained you has failed on an epic level.

while simplistic i was being honest , although id never call my self an intellectual

[Mick-Boy]

while simplistic i was being honest , although id never call my self an intellectual

Sorry Alex, that wasn't directed at you. I think you're off to a good start. I hit on the big three issues at the bottom of page 7. Until some progress is made on those issues they're going nowhere. That can't happen until both sides are willing to give a little. "God gave it to us" just isn't going to cut it with 7.8 million believers on one side and 6 million believers on the other side.

[Ronin13]

I can see my request for a little intellectual honesty didn't didn't take.

You rock on in your black and white world. Continue making judgements of millions of people based on your opinions and issuing blanket statements on America's foreign policy when you clearly have very little understanding of the issues involved. Whoever trained you has failed on an epic level.

In the words of Jack Ryan (from Clear and Present Danger): "Not black and white, right and wrong!"
Israel, for the most part, =Good!
Palestine, while mostly not bad people, still those support bombing innocent people= BAD...
I'd think whoever trained me probably knew more about what they were talking about than most- considering one of whom used to be the 5th highest ranking civilian from the DoD to brief the president (which probably fell on deaf ears because it was during Clinton's reign of stupidity on foreign policy).

[Irving]

No, can't say I have... I'm currently reading that criticism of the drug war book by the former Sheriff of San Miguel County (Telluride)... Should I add it to the next book in line?

You don't need to add it, I just wonder how you'd feel about the events in the book is all.