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    I know this is a giant leap of faith but I don't think the dems even with commie mommie polosi as speaker will push the gun issue to hard. The reason being is if they do there will be no hope of them getting any where in 08. Of course the Republicans can screw the pooch for the next 2 years like the previous 6 and then all bets are off.

    So I'm hoping not much is going to happen because we all know most of our elected officials are worried more about themselves than the country.

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    Well, we can hold the dems responsible now for all the f'ups, and we gotta be like white on rice about it too.

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    They won't do much for the next two years after 08 when they really take over all hell is going to break loose. Anybody remember 94? it's coming soon. :evil:
    "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." (Edmund Burke 1784)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterCO
    They won't do much for the next two years after 08 when they really take over all hell is going to break loose. Anybody remember 94? it's coming soon. :evil:

    unfortunately like 9-11 94's a distant and faded memory.
    if the liberal wing of the dnc listens to liberman we have a chance. if they stay as liberal ,as the rnc is christian conservative we're all done for.
    what happened to the middle ground?,

    [usa] WE GET THE GOVERNMENT WE DESERVE. [usa]

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim

    [usa] WE GET THE GOVERNMENT WE DESERVE. [usa]
    That's very true, unfortunately.

    Rocky Mountain Gun Owners has an update as well that is interesting:

    http://www.rmgo.org/alerts/2006electionresults.shtml

    Though the media isn't reporting last night's election this way, the simple fact is that pro-gun conservatives are about the only candidates who survived the Democrat landslide.

    Expect a full report in our newsletter, but a cursory look at the winners from last night show that the Republican elected officials are getting more pro-gun -- and Republican compromisers can't win.

    Consider this:

    Congressional District 4: Marilyn Musgrave (who ran an amendment this year to get rid of the federal trigger locks compromise cut by the NRA) survived a tough and extremely expensive challenge.

    Congressional District 5: Finally, after 20 years of do-nothing Joel Hefley, Colorado Springs now has a hardcore pro-gun conservative in Doug Lamborn. Lamborn has been nothing short of a hero in the state legislature, and we expect even better while he is in Congress.

    State Legislature: Mike Kopp handily won a State Senate seat after narrowly defeating a liberal incumbent in the primary.

    Gun-hater Tom Mauser worked tirelessly -- and in vain -- to defeat Kopp, who represents the Columbine area. Scott Renfroe trounced his opponent, and Brophy, Harvey and Schultheis cruised to victory. This core of constitutionalists form a solid base in the Senate, even if the Democrats retain control.

    On the House side, Kent Lambert joins with conservatives Cory Gardner and David Balmer, among others.

    All of these candidates stood firmly for our gun rights in primaries and general elections, and they were rewarded with a seat.

    There are also some lessons learned by defeat, though you won't read this in the papers either:

    Bob Beauprez followed the same old, failed strategy as the

    And while the NRA and CSSA spent much of their time explaining why Bill Ritter is bad on guns (he is terrible, no doubt), they failed to mention that Bob Beauprez actually SIGNED the 2000 SAFE ballot initiative to close the so-called "gun show

    loophole." That alone should give gun owners reason for pause, and it did.

    What Beauprez, and other establishment types in the GOP don't get, is that though gun owners often vote on the lesser of two evils in cases like this, they don't put their heart and soul into races like this. That means less volunteers, less coffee shop enthuiasm and less money. Yes, we usually vote Republican, but we aren't force multipliers the way we are when we are excited about a solidly pro-gun candidate (who doesn't compromise our rights the way Beauprez has).

    The people who run Trailhead and those in their orbit (mostly Gov. Owens' people, like Katie Atkinson) are also big losers in this election. For the second election in a row, they proved that they don't know how to win elections. During the primary they attempted to scare conservatives away from running primaries. Not only did their more liberal candidates lose the primary, but their predications also did not come true (that conservatives winning primaries means they'll lose the general election). If that's the case, why did Bob Beauprez trail the down-ticket conservatives within a given district?

    The lesson of the GOP defeats: the establishment (which often tells good guys to "moderate" their stance on guns) is a lead anchor, and their ideas are failing the GOP.

    A one-line synopsis of last night's results are: Moderate/liberal Republicans lost, while conservative, pro-gun Republicans won.

    Now it's time to get ready to endure the Democrat party in full power in Colorado. Their consultants have been telling them for a number of years that gun control is a loser for their party, and should be left alone. We'll see if Democrats heed that advice.

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    I think there will be at least 3 years before anything happens on the national level, as far as the state level I do not know. I also think that the congress learned from the holes in the 94 ban and if there were another ban I would look for it to be a lot worse than 94.

    I was thinking Tuesday night that buying some AR receivers would not be a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7idl
    Well, we can hold the dems responsible now for all the f'ups, and we gotta be like white on rice about it too.
    Condaleeza dates white people? [roll]

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPfiveengineer
    I think there will be at least 3 years before anything happens on the national level, as far as the state level I do not know. I also think that the congress learned from the holes in the 94 ban and if there were another ban I would look for it to be a lot worse than 94.

    I was thinking Tuesday night that buying some AR receivers would not be a bad idea.
    I would be surprised if it took that long. Pelosi is going to sit everyone down and tell them they'd better toe her rabid-left party line or they're not going to have an easy time if she has anything to say about it (and she does). They'll start sending gun-control legislation in front of Bush as soon as they can, and being the last two years of his term he'll sign everything that comes across his desk in an attempt to improve his image and "legacy". We all know he's said he'd sign another AWB if it came up, so as soon as the Dems put one together and it hits Bush's desk, we as a nation of gun owners are proper FUCKED.

    I agree with you on buying AR lowers though. Mags, too.

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