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Does this sound like Minority Report to anyone? It sure does to me! "We're gonna punish you for a crime you have not committed... yet."Originally Posted by Outlaw1
"There is no news in the truth, and no truth in the news."
"The revolution will not be televised... Instead it will be filmed from multiple angles via cell phone cameras, promptly uploaded to YouTube, Tweeted about, and then shared on Facebook, pending a Wi-Fi connection."
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Just call me 47
The ATF isn't part of the TSA. TSA is under the Department of Homeland Security and ATF is under the Department of Treasury. There were some movements with the U.S. Customs service merging with the U.S. Border Patrol. The Coast Guard was moved into the Department of Homeland Security.
I do worry about the TSA wanting to extend their reach into other parts of transportation. The Director of the TSA was in Pueblo awhile ago inspecting some railroad issues and was quoted as saying he would like the TSA to take over responsibility of the railroad security. I would not support that or any other movement to give TSA more responsibility or more power. TSA needs to be dismantled and the airport security turned back over to the airports and airlines.
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
TSA is part of DHS. It has a very limited law enforcement component; the Federal Air Marshal Service and an Internal Affairs unit.
BATF once was a part of Treasury, however, after the creation of DHS, BATF was relocated to the Dept of Justice:
http://www.atf.gov/about/
I will refrain from commenting on fictional movies, other than the fact that TSA is no where even close to the type of checkpoint seen in Total Recall.
As a suggestion to all interested travellers; don't bring firearms to a TSA checkpoint. If you forgot you have a gun in your bag, you are probably not being a very responsible gun owner. Don't pack flammable or explosive items in your checked luggage. It really doesn't make the flying experience any safer for the rest of us. If questioned by anyone from the government, use the good sense you were given and make the best decision you can come up with regarding answering the questions. If you don't want to answer, don't. TSA does not arrest people, I don't care how many news stories you have read. No blue uniformed TSA employee has the authority to arrest people. They call the local cops, who then use their training and experience to decide what should be done. Sometimes airline personnel are called and an individual airline will refuse to let someone fly based on the circumstances.
If anyone has proof that a TSA employee actually arrested someone, please share.
Oh, and by the way, I am actually not defending TSA as an agency. I just kind of get tired of the misinformation.
How would you (this is a general call to anyone who reads this) prevent another 9/11 tragedy? How would you make over 30,000 domestic airline flights each day in this country safe? I truly don't have an answer to either of those questions, but I know that for 10 years there have been plenty of so called experts who apparently know just how to fix the system. It is ironic that many people today want to return security to the same companies who were responsible on 9/11. Maybe the airlines have learned. Maybe they would do a better job than they did 10 years ago. After all, life is full of risks. Who do you trust?
Be safe citizens.
"We need a private security force, as well funded and equipped as the military"
Where have I heard that before?
Translation- "I know I cant use the military within our borders to enforce my agenda so I will just make my own"
Brown Shirts
The most important thing to be learned from those who demand "Equality For All" is that all are not equal...
Gun Control - seeking a Hardware solution for a Software problem...
this makes us all safer... dont you see?
I told every one i knew this was coming
Recently a buddy of mine was looking through his wallet for something and realized he had several razor blades in it (he uses them daily for his job in the material department). I told him he was lucky that he didn't go through security at the airport with that stuff. Unfortunately he had flown at least 8 times with those razor blades without even realizing.
So much for security.
A weapon in the hands of someone with no intent to harm anyone is not a threat. It doesn't sound like your buddy was bringing a weapon onto an airplane so much as he forgot he had some tools from work in his wallet.
Security isn't perfect. Are you surprised?
I really hope our government isn't spending our tax dollars trying to prevent random citizens from bringing items which could be used as weapons onto airplanes. I know it often seems like that is exactly what TSA is doing.
If you were in charge of security at the airport, where would you focus your resources? What do you believe are the biggest threats and how would you defend against those threats?
I'm not a psychologist, a community organizer, nor an anthropologist, so I have no idea how to get tribes in Africa to stop raping virgins to try and cure themselves of HIV. I do know that it is wrong though.
Same thing with the TSA. Security isn't something I know a lot about, but I know what they are doing is WRONG, and isn't even one step closer to safer commercial air travel.
"There are no finger prints under water."
Everything TSA does is wrong or are there specific things that you could list? Would those things be just as wrong if they were done by a private security company?
Did you know that TSA trains and arms pilots who volunteer to be deputized?
http://www.tsa.gov/lawenforcement/programs/ffdo.shtm
Is that wrong? Does that get us one step closer to safer commercial air travel?
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