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    Default Issues zeroing at 100m

    I need some shooting advice fellas.

    I'm shooting a remington 700 vssf with a choate stock, Leupold 6.5-20x Scope and I think I'm having issues with my bipod.

    I've got my scope zero'd at 50m to a nickle, but when I've got my target out to 100m my bipod's wobble is killing me. I'm getting tight shots within a quarter but they're more on the right side of my bullseye regardless of the corrections I'm making.

    At 50m I was using 6.5x mag, and 100m 20x mag. The bipod is on good, but the rifle can twist or rotate to the left and right and this I believe is hurting my shooting. I wish I could simply lock the bipod so it doesn't move...or maybe it's just my shooting? I don't know the brand of bipod I have, it came with the gun.

    I've got a decent shooting stability, but I suppose I could go crazy with some sandbags, etc.

    This is my first long range precision rifle, perhaps I'm expecting too much accuracy from the ammo I'm using for 100m shots?
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    Chances are the bipod is exerting pressure on the forend which is exerting pressure on the barrel. Take a dollar bill, fold it in half and attempt to pass it between the stock and barrel along it's entire length. It should travel unhindered. Now with the bipod employed exert a little downward pressure on the rifle and redo the dollar bill thing.
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    Action screws torqued to 65 in/lbs?
    Pull the action from the stock-any indicators that anything is moving around?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggysrun View Post
    I need some shooting advice fellas.

    I'm shooting a remington 700 vssf with a choate stock, Leupold 6.5-20x Scope and I think I'm having issues with my bipod.

    I've got my scope zero'd at 50m to a nickle, but when I've got my target out to 100m my bipod's wobble is killing me. I'm getting tight shots within a quarter but they're more on the right side of my bullseye regardless of the corrections I'm making.

    At 50m I was using 6.5x mag, and 100m 20x mag. The bipod is on good, but the rifle can twist or rotate to the left and right and this I believe is hurting my shooting. I wish I could simply lock the bipod so it doesn't move...or maybe it's just my shooting? I don't know the brand of bipod I have, it came with the gun.

    I've got a decent shooting stability, but I suppose I could go crazy with some sandbags, etc.

    This is my first long range precision rifle, perhaps I'm expecting too much accuracy from the ammo I'm using for 100m shots?
    plus one to what BP said another thing to consider do you really need your magnification at 20 at a hundred yards? Try leaving it at 6.5 and see if you can do better.
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    Try dry firing with a quarter balanced on the end of the barrel. If it keeps falling off it could be you are pulling the trigger a little.

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    What brand bipod is it ? Are you shooting prone or off a bench ? Are You preloading the bipod ? Are You running a rear bag ?

    The Harris swivel bipod con be adjusted for tension and better yet have a Podloc installed and be totally locked down stocks .

    If you are getting good groups at 50 with the same technique this more than likely shooter induced and a position issue .

    Come out to one of the long range matches at PWSA or CRC and someone can help get it sorted out between everybody there there's probably a century's worth of experience on the line .

    The HS stock on that gun is plenty stiff enough and more than likely forend flex is not the issue . I know plenty of guy's winning the long range tactical matches with HS

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    The proper torque for the action screws per Remington , on the website in the FAQ section , for the VS series rifles is 45 inch pounds NOT 65 .
    The stock screws and bottom metal is not up to the task as the screws stretch and the aluminum floor plate will deform and / or crack . The often quoted 65 inch pounds comes from the military rifles that have had the screws replaced and steel or upgraded aluminum bottom metal installed .

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    Torque smorque... if it was touching the barrel or causing stress in the action, you would see it at 50 yds too.

    Dial back the mag to about 10x and work on shooting technique. If the swivel point on the bipod is simply too much for you to overcome then sell it and go to a different bipod.
    Frank at snipershide has multiple videos on line about proper shooting technique that can help. Check them out and then do some dry firing at home to get the techniques down before youir next range trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Torque smorque... if it was touching the barrel or causing stress in the action, you would see it at 50 yds too.

    Dial back the mag to about 10x and work on shooting technique. If the swivel point on the bipod is simply too much for you to overcome then sell it and go to a different bipod.
    Frank at snipershide has multiple videos on line about proper shooting technique that can help. Check them out and then do some dry firing at home to get the techniques down before youir next range trip.

    Agreed , this is almost certainly a shooter induced issue ,as addressed in my first post .

    The second post was to correct the bad information that keeps being put up before somebody trashes there bottom metal .

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    No clue what kind of bipod I got. Bellow is a picture and a vid of what's going on with the Bipod.






    C Ward when/where are these PWSA/CRC events? I'll definately check them out.

    I'm pretty sure this bipod isn't good for me but again like you guys said it's in myself (the shooter) as well. I was shooting off my truck bed, I was using various boxes and sandbags to stabilize the bipod/stock. Don't know the name of it, but I was using that screw on the end of the stock on the bottom to lower and rise the stock precisely.
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    Pretty sure you have a Versa-pod model 2 there.

    The PWSA match is ran by hoser and is the third Sat of every month down in Pueblo West. It's called the prairie dog match as you shoot at PD targets. The CRC match is coming up this weekend (I think), and is at the CO Rifle Club in Byers. There are threads for both in the sports section on here.
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