Unconstitutional?

[Irving]

I don't like the senator owning all the places, and I'd say that most legislation that is similar than this is just to help turn something into an industry. Ever know anyone who has gotten a DUI? That whole process is a damn shame. They make you do all kinds of stuff (that costs a lot of money) and it is all to further the industry.

Drug testing? Yes.
Have to go to only certain places? Absolutely not.

[sniper7]

I heard the obama administration wanted to remove the word "unconstitutional" from the dictionary. They said there is no such thing

[Ronin13]

Here is my .02 on this... one, you all by now probably know my stance on the drug war (as a 1/2 libertarian, 1/2 republican I'm against the drug war), but, if it is required for many jobs, my current one is not, but most out there are, you should be clean. Do I care what people put in their bodies? No. Do I care what they use MY money to pay for? Yes. Welfare is our money given to people who don't have much, so they should have to pee in a cup and pass to get their check from the government's tit. As far as the constitutionality of it, Welfare is not in the constitution, so this is not regulated by such, thus piss in the cup or no check for you! Nuff said.

[clublights]

I don't like the senator owning all the places, and I'd say that most legislation that is similar than this is just to help turn something into an industry. Ever know anyone who has gotten a DUI? That whole process is a damn shame. They make you do all kinds of stuff (that costs a lot of money) and it is all to further the industry.

Drug testing? Yes.
Have to go to only certain places? Absolutely not.

Yeah 90% of the DUI stuff is not about punishment anymore.. it's about making companies money.

as for the certain places thing....

you have to limit it some to make sure that there is integrity in the process...

Should the state trust Joe's drug testing emporium? ... run outta his garage ?

[earplug]

Using the same clean piss for government payments argument could be expanded to requiring clean piss to collect your IRS/state tax refund. Hunting, fishing licence
Its for the good of society and your own well being.
The power of the state needs to be reduced

[SuperiorDG]

Using the same clean piss for government payments argument could be expanded to requiring clean piss to collect your IRS/state tax refund. Hunting, fishing licence
Its for the good of society and your own well being.
The power of the state needs to be reduced

This ^^^

And also CCW. The UA is an ideal example of the slippy slop in action. The government has been allowed more and more power to circumvent the 4th Amendment and this needs to stop some where. Whether or not society benefits from a particular case is no reason to make exception to the Constitution.