So, how much do you love freedom?

[Zundfolge]

Keep in mind that Bill Lear (of Learjet fame) named his second daughter Shanda.

[Elhuero]

the government has absolutely no place stepping into a man's family and his business.

the pendulum swings.

once, a child was basically a man's property, to do with as he pleased. he could treat them as good or as bad as he wanted. force them to work (that's why school's out in the summer, so kids could go work on the farm) or abuse and neglect them. beat his wife.

the pendulum swung back, and the government started to protect kids. children in an abusive home would be removed, deadbeat dads would be punished for not paying child support.

but it keeps swinging, and now has swung too far.

now, the government is overstepping it's bounds. politically incorrect name? take the child. father supports the oath keepers? take the child. (this happened in new hampshire) now the legal system is horribly biased toward women, and men are the victims of financial rape in divorce proceedings.

the pendulum will swing until it hits the wall that is the limit the people will allow. when the people decide they've had enough, they can stop the pendulum dead in it's tracks.

now if adolf and goebbels or whatever he named them were being abused and neglected, I'd have no problem with the state doing something about it


but the question byte poses is key. where is the line? with the government, once a line is crossed that ground is lost and they very very rarely give it back. if we let the government continue to make up reasons and provide excuses why this action needs to be taken, or that freedom needs to be trimmed a bit for the greater good, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUpbOliTHJY, then before you know it they will be banging down your door, taking your children to protect them from all the dangerous guns you posess. or from the pervasive ideals you are teaching them by homeschooling rather than enrolling them in public school. or whatever thing that is against the will of the government.

and if you resist you will be killed. because you threatened the life of our intrepid protectors. those that run towards danger rather away from it, to whom we all owe a debt of gratitude. how dare you!

some people will scoff and say it's impossible. maybe even mock me, call me a cop hater like they have in the past. but that's what we're heading for, folks. it happened in germany and it can happen here. and with all these occupy wherever protests going on, it just shows that there are a LOT of people out there that are absolutely gagging for it. they are practically throwing their freedoms over the fence onto the white house lawn and demanding the government take care of them.

and now we see here a family that has won. the courts have ruled in their favor. yet where are their children? how long must they wait for the government to obey the lawful order of the court?

bet your ass if the coin was reversed and the government was on the waiting end, they'd have the swat team shooting dogs and tossing flashbangs with a quickness.

we are stewing in a pot, and the page of the cookbook is titled DISASTER.

[clublights]

I'm with Cstone on this one...

There HAS to be more to the story...

Even if there is not .. why did the state wait till they were older if it was all about the names? someone had to sign off on those Birth Certs. Shoulda brought it up then frankly. if .. and thats a BIG IF.. there is some legal standing ( which there is not )


Tho I do agree with a Lewis Black skit..

The guy that signs the BC's should be allowed to look at the parents and just say .. "uhhh NO. try again"

I guess parents forget how harsh children are to each other in grade school ( and up for that matter) , My Name is really uncommon and I got some crap for it as a kid.. has a sub teach in the 5th grade argue with me that Kade ( pronounced like Wade but with a K) was a girls name, And I was just screwing with him. talk about a pain in the ass to deal with at that age....

Anyways..... yeah the parents do have a right to name the kids whatever they want.... That's how it works .

Of course I think the kid should be able to take the little end of a fishing pole and whap the parent right on the back of the neck every time a kid makes fun of their odd name while growing up. Seems Fair to me.

[TFOGGER]

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

If common sense wasn't an oxymoron, this would NOT be an issue.

[cstone]

I have no proof that this story is accurate, however, it does illustrate that not every parent is completely responsible for unusual name choices:

Anfernee “Penny” Hardaway was born July 18, 1972 in Memphis, Tennessee. Anfernee “Penny” Hardaway got the name Anfernee because his mom couldn’t say Anthony and the doctor wrote down Anfernee when he asked Anfernee’s mother her baby’s name. His mother had to work long hours so he was raised by his grandmother until high school. He got the nickname “Penny” from his grandmother because she said that he looked like a penny when she looked down at him playing on the floor. His dad taught him about basketball as a child. As far as I know he doesn’t have any brothers or sisters.

Besides, my kids like their names; Rolling and Cold

[Ah Pook]

There is more to this story.

[Elhuero]

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

that's exactly what anti gun folks and glocktalk LEOs say about open carry.

[Atrain1]

All I have to say about it is IMO only a RACIST WHITE TRASH SCUMBAG would give their kids those names.

[Zundfolge]

All I have to say about it is IMO only a RACIST WHITE TRASH SCUMBAG would give their kids those names.

So the question is; in a free society can you outlaw being a racist white trash scumbag?


I would argue that the occasional poor white trash kid named "Adolf Hitler" is the price we pay for freedom.

Furthermore, how is naming a child after Hitler worse than naming your child after a middle eastern, pedophilic, anti-Semitic death cult leader?

[TFOGGER]

that's exactly what anti gun folks and glocktalk LEOs say about open carry.

And there are times that open carry is entirely inappropriate. If your last name was Black, it would be inappropriate to name your son N*gger.


I defend their right to name their child whatever they wish, just as I defend the right of those who wish to open carry to do so. I just wish that some people would look at the consequences for everyone involved before they act.