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    I think it's a Trojan Horse. Or maybe just a Trojan. Either way, I think we're screwed by this in the future.

    I'm against ANYTHING that gets the Feds involved in this sort of thing. Like was said above, the next part of this "sensible" legislation will be mag limits, training requirements, qualification based on make/type/serial number (just saw a New Yorker's gun permit at the show today; it ain't a pretty thing).

    I don't think comparing it to the DL is a valid point. There isn't a huge lobby to ban cars from law-abiding people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tweety Bird View Post
    I don't think comparing it to the DL is a valid point. There isn't a huge lobby to ban cars from law-abiding people.
    You're right, it's not a valid point because only one is protected by the US Constitution as an inalienable right. Hint: It's not driving.
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    Let's out it this way, if one sentence contains the words "federal government" and "my gun rights", then it can't be good. This can be amended in anyway shape or form after passing. Which means it could change into anything the world by the time it goes into affect.

    Anything giving federal government any control of firearms in any way, shape, or form, is absolutely wrong.
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    I'm against fed control, but it looks like a good idea. I would seriously like to see the ability for CCW to be valid in any state just like a DL. It is ridiculous that people have to know 50 different sets of gun laws before traveling and for the right to protect themselves. I'm all for something like this as long as it's still state issued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevDen2005 View Post
    I'm against fed control, but it looks like a good idea. I would seriously like to see the ability for CCW to be valid in any state just like a DL. It is ridiculous that people have to know 50 different sets of gun laws before traveling and for the right to protect themselves. I'm all for something like this as long as it's still state issued.
    Wait just a damn minute.

    The only way you're going to force all 50 states to have the same gun laws would be for the Feds to mandate those laws.

    Is that what you want?

    If so, you'll probably be pretty happy with this bill because that's where it'll likely lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tweety Bird View Post
    Wait just a damn minute.

    The only way you're going to force all 50 states to have the same gun laws would be for the Feds to mandate those laws.

    Is that what you want?

    If so, you'll probably be pretty happy with this bill because that's where it'll likely lead.
    States all make up their own traffic laws and not all of them are exactly alike. Obviously that isn't what I want and you would know this by reading the very first part of my post.

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    Can somebody point out to me in the constitution where congress has the authority to pass this law?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    You're right, it's not a valid point because only one is protected by the US Constitution as an inalienable right. Hint: It's not driving.
    True enough. But please, don't make the assumption that something has to be written somewhere in the Constitution in order for it to be a "right". The 10th Amendment says so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    You're right, it's not a valid point because only one is protected by the US Constitution as an inalienable right. Hint: It's not driving.
    But there also isn't major organizations, other countries and major groups or people who cry bloody murder at the sight of a car. They love their prius and don't want to ban cars.
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